@jc1 Version 4.37.2 - March 08, 2023
For those using Thrustmaster Warthog TARGET software, the reason for this update is:
Make changes to accommodate the new Keyfile updates in BMS 4.37.2

For personal preference, I also made changes:
shift CMS Down, BMS272 from SimEmergencyJettison to OTWSelect3DCockpitMode
shift SC, BMS294 from SimToggleMissileCage to SimRadarCursorZero
LTB, BMS55, from FOVToggle to SimToggleMissileCage
shift LTB, BMS 311 from SimSpotLight to FOVToggle
shift TMS Up BMS262 to SimRadarCursorZero to SimSpotLight

The following files have changed:
jc1-DX128.tmc
jc1-DX128.key
jc1-DX128-Joystick.pdf
jc1-DX128-Throttle.pdf
jc1-DX128-Key Labels.pdf
jc1-DX128-Key Codes.pdf

All my files are available via first post of this thread.

Step 5. Place the overlay on top of throttle. Align the switches within the circles like so.

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Step 6. Push down on the paper the Switches should emerge from where you cut across the circles.

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If the switches do not align within the circles there is a scaling issue with your print. You may have to play with your printer settings or try using the PDF or PNG. The printing out process can be frustrating and there is no exact science to it. I created this file in GIMP and also have a Photoshop file of this profile. If your struggling and want access to those let me know via PM and we can work out a way to transfer them, as they are large files .

If the overlay is the correct size. You can cut out the holes with an hobby knife and tape the overlay down.

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Step 11.JPG

You could also take these files and have them either laser cut and etched or printed on foam board. Which is probably how these result we’re achieved.

https://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?/forums/topic/185629-thrustmaster-hotas-warthog-switch-panel-setup/

@Logic technical manual page 9-97

and have a look in BMS-Full.key, search for keyword “gamepad”, around line 1088+

it’s a little weird/different in that the SimAltHotas* callbacks appear hard-coded to do the things listed in the doc table, in the various shift-states

it’s not a general purpose multi-layer-shift mechanism, like the conventional dx-shift

multiplexing the hat to do TMS, DMS, CMS and FCR/TGP seems non controversial…

but the A/B/X/Y button mappings are a little wompy… may or may not be useful, for T.16000M stick buttons

@danaos75 Hi . Thank you for your reply. I tried your proposal and it seems to be going a bit better.

@saltyexxer said in Printable Warthog Throttle Overlay:

Is there an editable version of this? The PDF seems to be one big graphic. I’d like to change the labels to match the functions on my throttle.

It should be easily editable in Adobe Acrobat/Edit , the white circles and the text are all moveable/editable objects. I can check when back home in a week or so…

Hi, Zapper, glad you got it fixed! Don’t feel bad. My first week in BMS I couldn’t get the jet to taxi because in those days in had to invert the brake axis’ to get them to unlock, and I didn’t know that.

I would like to share my BMS most usable (at least for me!!😊 😊 )simulation keys.
My hardware setup includes :

HOTAS Warthog ( Stick&throttle ) Thrustmaster ( Rudder pedals) Track IR

Key file is stored on Google Drive

BMS - StarkF16_20232501.jpg

The downloaded keyfile needs to be in the config folder of BMS and always needs to be selected/loaded (before flight CHECKLIST😀 ) from the Setup> CONTROLLERS> LOAD pop-up form.
If there is any other key function we like to use we just copy and paste

Enjoy !!

@jusam3 No problem, glad you got a result. Alternative Launcher takes some getting used to but its the fastest way I know to get a HOTAS configured, especially when it comes to mapping call-backs to your throttle and stick.

Initially I advise to set the joystick up the way I suggested perhaps the first time but once you’ve got the axis’s sorted then I close down and go to the launcher, and check that those axis are all working properly in the AL. Then proceed to map all the switches according to your preferences. This can become a problem if you dont know the name of the call back you’re looking for, but you can search and look at different sections to find precisely what you’re looking for. The process before AL was quite difficult in the past hence many pilots got pretty good at editing the key-files directly.

Just be aware AL may override your rudder pedals, and the mirror setting in the graphics section. I prefer to use my right pedal to control both brakes, unfortunately AL will set it to left pedal so sometimes when I make changes to my call backs in AL it overrides my pedal settings and I have to redo them in the BMS setup. No complaints because it is just so handy now.

Biggest winner in AL for me is the ability to set a release on a single throw switch i.e. when you move the switch its on, when you switch it back its off. You could edit the key-file to achieve this but now its just a couple clicks in AL.

Found a way to configure the HAT to control only the TRIM.

There is a new command in falcon bms.cfg :

set g_nNumOfPOVs 2

i change 2 to -1 (“Default POV behaviour”)

I actually made the change in the file “Falcon BMS User.cfg”, which is better for future use (updates or new versions).

Great. Thanks for the help guys.

@foxster Thank you. It looks a bit too complicated. I think I will wait untill I can buy better joystick.

Hi everybody!!
Since I started Falcon BMS I always used the Morphine Profile but it seems that nobody will continue to improve and support it.
The other day I run Alternative Laucher for the first time to change scenario and 80% of the key mapping I have with morphine disappeared and there has been no way to restore it
That added to what I mentioned before, nobody supports Morphine, I think I’m going to try to do the Key mapping with the Alternative Launcher trying to replicate what I had with Morphine
Does anyone know if there is a manual or video where it is explained how it is done?

@rubbra Just saw this. How did you assign the pedals as rudder? I tried to, but it has only one axis for rudder (no left-right). I had to compromise and assign the pedals as toe brakes (2 axis).

I have already “used up” two warthog stick bases. After a year or so of heavy use the wires in the stickbase show wear (in the part where they are in the plastick ball and rub against the plastic) and finally the plastic on the wires wears off showing the bare copper wires. This creates all kinds of false contacts and the stickbase becomes unusable.

Sending the stickbase in for warranty does not help much for the problem itself. The shop where I bought it, sent it to Thrustmaster. When TM hadn’t returned it after three months, the shop refunded me. So I bought a new one. It is a pain going through all the hassles, specially replacing the base in my simpit. Luckily the bases are just a bit over 100 euro. But this problem shouldn’t occur at all.

Another point where I needed TM service was when one of the springs in my TM rudder snapped. Again it took many months and I had to send in my old broken spring to receive a new one. I received exactly 1 replacement. Thought they would be more helpful and send a few as spares, but no. Luckily I found usable replacement springs on Aliexpress and bought a bunch myself,

So al in all TM service isn’t always helpful and it takes forever for them to react.

@JollyFE Bummer 😖

I’ve found this ultimate TARGET’s script solution for using my Thrustmaster Warthog (+any grip or even any TM joystick). With it assigning controls has never been easier now in any simulator left alone F4 BMS. Note last couple of posts there relevant to BMS and ask your questions if any.

Cheers,
https://forum.dcs.world/topic/144048-thrustmaster-combined-full-dx-mapping-extending-the-32-dx-buttons-limit

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No more messing with the keystroke bindings, it’s universal.

I don’t have any experience with TARGET scripts, maybe someone with code knowledge can help me with the following script:
I have a 3 position A-B-C switch. I would like TARGET to send F1 when that switch goes from A to B and send F2 when the switch goes from C to B.
Thank you!

@cobragva There is something weird here: same number (129) for 2 different buttons.

In the profile, set 128 (129-1) for the LFMD.

SimCBEOSB_1L 128 -1 -2 0 0x0 126

Hello ,

I have an issue with pitch hold , not functional , falcon bms version 4.36.1 , when I trie to use it , I see a little shake on the throttle ???

Rgds