Good morning, Gentlemen.

Just for your information and sharing a good experience I had.
Some time ago, Dee-Jay made a TIR for BMS 4.32 and TIR 3, if I’m seeing correctly.
You can find it in the “C:\Falcon BMS 4.32\User\Joystick\Others\Track IR Profiles\DeeJay” folder, if you still have BMS 4.32 installed, of course.

But it works very pretty fine with BMS 4.33.5 and TIR 5 too!
This is my experience. After I installed it, I’m having wonderful flights. Finally!
If I bothered you with something already at your knowledge, my apologies.

Thanks a lot, Dee-Jay. I owe you a cold one of your choice.

With best regards,

Hey,

Here’s a profile for my delanclip - you may have to mod some settings for the trackhat, but the curves should be about there. Below is the full copy/paste from my .ini;

[migrations]
last-migration-at=20180118_00~

[modules]
tracker-dll=PointTracker 1.1
filter-dll=Accela

[proto-freetrack]
used-interfaces=2

[tracker-pt]
camera-fps=60
camera-name=PS3Eye Camera
automatic-threshold=true
model-centroid-x=100
model-centroid-y=-53
model-centroid-z=71
dynamic-pose-resolution=false
camera-fov=56
blob-color=2

[opentrack-ui]
x-source-index=0
y-source-index=1
keycode-center=F12
keycode-toggle-tracking=F11
pitch-zero-pos=0
roll-zero-pos=0
yaw-zero-pos=0
neck-depth=5
neck-enable=true
relative-translation-mode=1
compensate-translation-disable-y-axis=false
compensate-translation-disable-x-axis=false
compensate-translation-disable-z-axis=false
compensate-translation-disable-source-pitch=false
compensate-translation-disable-source-roll=false
compensate-translation-disable-source-yaw=false
keycode-toggle=
keycode-toggle-press=

[opentrack-mappings]
pitch-max-value=20
roll-max-value=20
yaw-max-value=25
x-max-value=20
pitch-alt-axis-sign=false
x-alt-axis-sign=false
roll-alt-axis-sign=false
z-alt-axis-sign=false
z-max-value=10
y-alt-axis-sign=true

[spline-X]
points=“@Variant(\0\0\0\x7f\0\0\0\xfQList<qpointf>\0\0\0\0\x3?\xf0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0@\x10\0\0\0\0\0\0@,\0\0\0\0\0\0@\x18\0\0\0\0\0\0@I\0\0\0\0\0\0)”

[spline-Y]
points=@Variant(\0\0\0\x7f\0\0\0\xfQList<qpointf>\0\0\0\0\x2?\xe0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0@\x14\0\0\0\0\0\0@4\0\0\0\0\0\0)

[spline-Z]
points=@Variant(\0\0\0\x7f\0\0\0\xfQList<qpointf>\0\0\0\0\x2?\xf8\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0@"\0\0\0\0\0\0@I\0\0\0\0\0\0)

[spline-yaw]
points=@Variant(\0\0\0\x7f\0\0\0\xfQList<qpointf>\0\0\0\0\x4?\xf0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0@\x12\0\0\0\0\0\0@ \0\0\0\0\0\0@1\x80\0\0\0\0\0@T\xc0\0\0\0\0\0@9\0\0\0\0\0\0@d\xa0\0\0\0\0\0)

[spline-pitch]
points=@Variant(\0\0\0\x7f\0\0\0\xfQList<qpointf>\0\0\0\0\x5?\xf0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0@\x12\0\0\0\0\0\0@\x1c\0\0\0\0\0\0@%\0\0\0\0\0\0@9\0\0\0\0\0\0@/\0\0\0\0\0\0@I\x80\0\0\0\0\0@4\0\0\0\0\0\0@V\x80\0\0\0\0\0)

[spline-roll]
points=@Variant(\0\0\0\x7f\0\0\0\xfQList<qpointf>\0\0\0\0\x2@$\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0@4\0\0\0\0\0\0@A\x80\0\0\0\0\0)

[alt-spline-pitch]
points=“@Variant(\0\0\0\x7f\0\0\0\xfQList<qpointf>\0\0\0\0\x4?\xe0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0@\x12\0\0\0\0\0\0@\x1c\0\0\0\0\0\0@%\0\0\0\0\0\0@9\0\0\0\0\0\0@,\0\0\0\0\0\0@L\x80\0\0\0\0\0)”

[alt-spline-Z]
points=@Variant(\0\0\0\x7f\0\0\0\xfQList<qpointf>\0\0\0\0\x1@ \0\0\0\0\0\0@I\x80\0\0\0\0\0)

[alt-spline-roll]
points=@Variant(\0\0\0\x7f\0\0\0\xfQList<qpointf>\0\0\0\0\x2@\x1e\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0@4\0\0\0\0\0\0@A\x80\0\0\0\0\0)

[alt-spline-Y]
points=@Variant(\0\0\0\x7f\0\0\0\xfQList<qpointf>\0\0\0\0\x3?\xe0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0@\x4\0\0\0\0\0\0@\x1c\0\0\0\0\0\0@\x1c\0\0\0\0\0\0@I\0\0\0\0\0\0)</qpointf></qpointf></qpointf></qpointf></qpointf></qpointf></qpointf></qpointf></qpointf></qpointf>

That’s why you have v curves, and not a flat line with a hard dead zone. Plus, you don’t want a complete dead zone, just have the movement slowed and you won’t end up with a hard ‘notch’ at centre.

@WurminatorZA:

Use opentrack, all others are lacking really tested most of them and opentrack gives alot of control. Very smooth using ps3 eyecam and homemade clip

FWIW, there’s a workaround for SimConnect[1] broken in the latest release. There’s no workaround for VR roll axis breaking stuff (gimbal lock), will be fixed soon as per our release discussion.

[1] Copy “libopentrack-proto-simconnect.dll” as “opentrack-proto-simconnect.dll”. Exact file name except the “lib” prefix. Keep both files.

Hi, thanks for answer. At last I moved camera to left corner - out of the zone where “new” diode is appearing… It works…

Hi!

Recently I’m a proud owner of a EDTracker Pro and I want to share my impression…

Calibration is unusual, but easy.
I’m using it with a baseball cap, one velcro stripe on the top of the cap, one under the tracker, works.

In the beginning I had massiv issues with the wireless connection, because it was always lost.
But then I took a simple USB-Hub (almost as an extension), that I have nothing between the EDTracker and the dongle, and since then I have a absolut stable connection.

And now, this thing works like a charm, the head movement is absolute stable and “soft”.
What it now needs is a “pseudo 6-DOF”, hadn’t currently not the time, but I see no problem there.
As additional software for use in the sim, I use OpenTrack 2.3.9 (not installed, only running by the exe).

Conclusion:
I was searching for a “cheap” head tracker, others then TrackIR (I had TrackIR 4), but with 6 DOF.
Because I not really want to zoom, only to get a little nearer to the instruments (legibility by FOV==100) and I wanted absolutely no cable, my choice was the EDTracker. And I’m really happy with it.

Best regards
Earlybite

Make sure that you have Opentrack set to “Run this program as an administrator”, and “Disable fullscreen optimizations”, under the compatibility settings in Win10.

No, man. No one is working on a native compatibility for BMS in anything for VR or MR. It’s not a lack of desire, it’s a lack of expertise in this new field - not a lot of VR coders floating around with time to kill, and on top of that us VR/MR users are a niche of the larger community as a whole, too – so, huge workload for tiny slice of users means this is not something to look forward to in the near future. Keep an eye on the threads of course (I do), but for now BMS will surely continue as it is and I find it impossible to complain seeing how great BMS is already. I’ll say this, after years of flying with multiple monitors, TM MFD’s, etc., I found myself a bit in the weeds flying in emulated VR tests (with serious bugs) because I’m used to my desk being my “cockpit”.

There are ways to use 3rd party software to attempt to achieve VR while playing BMS, and some of these methods would likely work with MR as well, depending on software and hardware capabilities. I enjoyed playing it via Virtual Desktop on a slightly curved screen that appeared to my eyes to be the size of massive movie theater screen, and by leaning in I could read the guages. Just know that there are caveats such as resolution issues and blurry lettering, improper 1:1 head tracking, imprecise DoF effects, etc. and these challenges can make it difficult to emulate VR with 3rd party software, and to eliminate these issues one by one. Check the VR threads for some great tips and methods shared by the community, just know we haven’t “cracked” it yet, there is no perfect setup but some things come very close:
https://www.benchmarksims.org/forum/showthread.php?29402-BMS-in-VR

(plenty of other BMS VR threads, just do a forum search for “Virtual Reality”, but many of us posted some of our tests and methods for other to try in the above linked thread. Best of luck!)

… I could swear that I’ve missed the word ‘monopoly’ somewhere above … but its just me I guess… 😄

Easiest way to do it … is by yourself 😄

Start bms in window mode with opentrack open , load some small mission and make your curves in opentrack as you want… save your preset. That’s it.

Disable Z axis in relative translation setting when using it for zoom.

Hi Earlybite.
Been some time since I got mine, but the process was quite straight forward.
“Checkout” is usually where you pay for the goods. I can’t remember if signing in/registration is required, but I think it is.
Best regards. ZoomOut:)

Problem solved! 🆒

Downloaded and copied the 64 dll’s to Freetrack’s installation folder, and its working fine.

Thanks for your help!

Clear skies! 😉

U most probably and unfortunately have a fault device.

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I can definitely recommend FaceTrackNoIR (never mind the name, it does clip / point-tracking too using the pointtracker plugin provided with the software). I use it in conjunction with the DelanClip and a used ps eye webcam. Bought everything from Tomasz for around €50 including shipping from the UK.

You can also build the clip yourself for about €10 in parts, then all you’ll need is the facetracknoir software (costs around 3€ I think) and a webcam (you can build an IR filter from an old floppy disk or from a strip of exposed camera film).

Cheers, Uwe

If you’re looking into buying headtracking gear you can build a setup that is just as good (if not better) than TrackIR using a custom-built clip (I recommend the DelanClip), an old webcam / ps eye camera and facetrack-NoIR or opentrack / freetrack for less than $40. If you build the clip yourself you’ll end up closer to $20.

AFAIK it doesn’t affect fps within BMS at all, can’t speak for TrackIR though.

All the best, Uwe

@Steve_U:

As you have TrackIR, it should be possible for you to move your head/body in such a manner that you can look under, or in front of the arm rest.

It is also possible by using the mouse only. (center mouse button goes he mouse view in 6DOF mode)

You can’t expect eye tracking to work like a regular head tracker. With accumulative mode, you’re very limited with your yaw settings. Any more than, say, 45-60 degrees yaw, will rob you of any accuracy. Either that or it’ll take you way too much time to change the view position. The snapview mode is even more limited as per its purpose.

I’ve tested an eye tracker with a friend, using various gain options to get a decent and fast view all around. This isn’t possible with the accumulative tracker. For example, I was running in Arma 3 while trying to keep the view of a rock. In the end I lost the rock and wasn’t sure as for which direction I was looking at anymore.

Look at Tobii demos for Elite Dangerous and see what kind of experience the hardware grants. I’d say it’s promising for civilian flight and overall slower experience, but games requiring fast reflexes and multitasking aren’t suited for that.

Tobii eyetracker support for opentrack is high priority but I got less and less time for the project. However, from private tests I can already tell you that you won’t get the same kind of experience as a regular head tracker.

Another solution may be controlling traditional F4 snapviews with the eye tracker. Of course this doesn’t give an experience comparable to regular head tracking.

Just want to show my appreciation. Open-source head-tracking with a PS3-eye has had a bad name somehow and to be honest, I experienced poor performance with facetracknoir a couple of years ago. Now however with the recent opentrack-releases, I cannot distinguish the performance between a tIR-unit and opentrack. Even in daylight the algorithm has no issues tracking my homebuilt IR-led side-clip and with seamless response times. Fantastic work!

Hi Guys,
Thank you all for the solutions you offered. I decided to start with the least time-consuming option which was deleting the NaturalPoint directory from the registry. I worked like a charm and took 20 seconds.

Thank you