The 7=11 Navigation Method
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Ha ha
My hickups. Got it to go though. Great!
@BW,
I dont think it would be that intensive to impliment. If anything, you still have to set up your DTC but you could still get the HSD info. Dont see that as a big issue.
I think it would be quite easy for the devs to implement it in the sim. That said, I personally would not want my sim set up that way, and would have to go ahead and revert those changes if an update applied them for me.
The entire thing is just DTC settings so I am not sure what you mean by ‘getting HSD info’.
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The tread is about the 7=11 nav method. Please don’t hijack the subject.
It is NOT about ‘just DTC settings’. Read the article, watch the vids.
Using the DTC to get this result is a means to an end. The DTC is a tool. The goal is to aid SA and a quick way to navigate to alternates with the correct tower frequency. All at your fingertips with existing and available tools (PPT’s, steerpoints, UHF frequency banks).
Again, read the article, try it out, and then provide feedback or PM me if there anybody has any questions or needs help with this.
The ‘method’ I promote here is using existing tools in BMS to give a pilot the three things I mention in the article.
It is about tying together PPT’s, UHF freq’s, and (precision)steerpoints to greatly enhance the navigational options a pilot has. -
The tread is about the 7=11 nav method.Please don’t hijack the subject.
If a user makes a comment in the thread suggesting it become default as part of BMS, I reserve the right to comment my opinion on their suggestion, so long as the post made is not violating forum rules. Hence ‘fora’, no?
It is NOT about ‘just DTC settings’. Read the article, watch the vids.
I read the article through several times trying to ‘get’ what it is that is revolutionary about it. Watched the video (first one), too. Maybe its just that its not something the average BMS user thinks about? Thus far it appears to just be setting your DTC intelligently. I went so far as questioning the part I seem to be missing, about ‘getting HSD info’. You then accuse me of hijacking the subject.
Using the DTC to get this result is a means to an end. The DTC is a tool. The goal is to aid SA and a quick way to navigate to alternates with the correct tower frequency. All at your fingertips with existing and available tools (PPT’s, steerpoints, UHF frequency banks).
Again, read the article, try it out, and then provide feedback or PM me if there anybody has any questions or needs help with this.
The ‘method’ I promote here is using existing tools in BMS to give a pilot the three things I mention in the article.
It is about tying together PPT’s, UHF freq’s, and (precision)steerpoints to greatly enhance the navigational options a pilot has.Okay, the DTC is a tool, got it… but it is one which is already being used by quite a few people.
You have a method, and it apparently works for you. Thats GREAT. seriously. Its also great that you are sharing it. Loads of people can probably benefit from it.
The only part I take issue with, is the suggestion (NOT made by you) that it be implemented as the default DTC setting for BMS. Is that a little clearer?
EDIT: as long as I have you here, I might as well question why you have each steerpoint added twice, once in the STPTs 01-24 range, and once in the STPTs 56-70 range? Seems like it would be less system clutter to have them just the once, no?
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To answer your question about the steerpoints: yes I added them twice. The demonstration I made has all the alternates in there, all the PPT’s and all the frequencies. Therefore, the precision steerpoints are 11 through 24. The PPT’s are all in there in steerpoints 56-70. You can tweak this idea to suit your needs. You can only put in 5 alternate airbases for example.
But for demonstration purposes I put them all in there. my video ‘operational demonstration’ (vid 2) shows this. Why? Well:
1. The steerpoints are there to access when needed, you can flip through them and see which one is closest and find the corresponding frequency quickly.
2. The PPT’s are in there so your HSD will show the alternate location in relevance to your position and attitude.
3. Added benefit is that you can make your HSD the active MFD, slew the cursor and TMSup and select the alternate that way. This will result in selecting a PPT, say steerpoint 56, and finding the tower frequency.7=11. Steerpoint 11 is equal to UHF 7.
From a PPT point of view: 56=7. steerpoint 56 is equal to UHF 7.You can tweak this to your own liking: put in only the PPT’s, or only the steerpoints. You can do what you want with it.
I hope pilots can use it and benefit from it.
And yes you can say what you want to say, and question, comment, share or debunk anything. Please do, it will make things better. -
Hey “Buster”,
I adapted this slightly but the principle of getting to a friendly base, and talking to the tower, when you need to with minimum of fuss was a “Eureka” moment and I am very grateful you shared this with the wider community - good work mate !!!
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Haha yes it’s Poppy, but I had this name on BMS forums before and I haven’t been able to change it yet
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knew that ;0)
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I wonder who this Ironman53rd is?
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Tried it. NICE!
But a few hickups. No problems though. This should be added to the next up date. Easy enough to do. Should be a good and easy implimentation.
Again @BW,
No where did I say to add this as “default”. In fact, you can disable it quite easily. I have anproblem when people put words into my posts that simply arnt there. -
I find it inpossible to reconcile your words across your posts, but it seems I have either misconstrued your meaning, or you think it simple to add and remove. Either way I suggest that in deference to Poppy’s/Buster’s wishes, if you wish to discuss this further, we take it to PM.
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Again @BW,
No where did I say to add this as “default”. In fact, you can disable it quite easily. I have anproblem when people put words into my posts that simply arnt there.Perhaps you should explain then, how exactly BMS would implement this in the next release, but not by default.
The only way it could be implemented by the BMS team, since you can already do all of these things yourself, would be by default. As far as I can tell with your posts, nobody is placing words in your mouth.
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I am curious how pilots have been getting with the 7=11 nav method? Everything can always get better! This is me providing customer service
Cheers all, have a good weekend,
Poppy (Buster on this forum but I can’t change the name sorry for any confusion)