Three Ship Flight
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What is the problem with 3 ship? Sometimes is the right amount to use.
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What is the problem with 3 ship? Sometimes is the right amount to use.
The United States just about never utilizes three-ships in real life, as it destroys the concept of mutual support. It means that you’ve got an aircraft with no wingmate, which is bad for survival in high-threat environments. If you can do it with two, you do it with two. Otherwise, you add a second element, not just another aircraft. Typically speaking, anyway.
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The United States just about never utilizes three-ships in real life,
Good to know. Thank you.
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The United States just about never utilizes three-ships in real life, as it destroys the concept of mutual support. It means that you’ve got an aircraft with no wingmate, which is bad for survival in high-threat environments. If you can do it with two, you do it with two. Otherwise, you add a second element, not just another aircraft. Typically speaking, anyway.
Makes complete sense…
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None intended. I completely agree with your statement. Sorry if I was not clear on this.
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The United States just about never utilizes three-ships in real life
Although true, your OP has nothing to do with real life. It has to do with the fact that in the virtual world, specifically BMS/Falcon, through limitations of the code and ATO/ATM management, 3 ship flights occur.
You’re not flying with the USAF.
C9
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Does any nation do 3ship flights into combat ? …
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Does any nation do 3ship flights into combat ? …
Yep. In France it can happen. Not talking about four ship flight going into 3 because of ground abort and no spare.
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Lool … interesting, what’s the tactical advantage of a 3ship instead of a 4ship ?
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You won’t loose 4 ships?? LOL
C9
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@Cloud:
You won’t loose 4 ships?? LOL
C9
:rofl:
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None intended. I completely agree with your statement. Sorry if I was not clear on this.
No problem, mate! Glad I just misunderstood you.
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Lool … interesting, what’s the tactical advantage of a 3ship instead of a 4ship ?
You can frag 4 3-ship sorties instead of only 3 4-ship sorties?
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Yep. And some tactics (air to air mostly) include a 3 ship advantage.
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Lool … interesting, what’s the tactical advantage of a 3ship instead of a 4ship ?
When you have 6 available airframes and two fragged missions, you will have one more a/c with few more bombs (but tanker will have to deliver more fuel which can be limitative in some cases …)
When air-superiority needs 3 a/c … and you have only 3 available a/c … you can do the mission.
@Cloud:
You won’t loose 4 ships?? LOL
C9Yep.
Losing airframes is something to take in account. Sometimes, they can be lost … even on ground.
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Interesting. How do you deal with support, though? Who supports who in a three-ship? Does the lead just get two wingmates? Or is it a standard element, and then a single ship with no wingman? Or something else? Would the French Air Force ever operate like that in a real high threat environment like the DPRK?
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Would the French Air Force ever operate like that in a real high threat environment like the DPRK?
We are not operating over DPRK those last years, so we adapt to the situation when it is needed (no more systematic NOE with M2000D either and M2000N are also doing conventional strikes … )
As you know, if/when air superiority/supremacy is gained, you need less mutual support against air threat … so a three ship flight for STRIKE, CAS, SCAR … missions are not surprising me. However, I do not know if it is a common configuration or rather rare (?)
EDIT: I’ve also seen (rare cases) mixed patrols (Rafale + M2000N … M2000D + MF1CT … less rare: C160 + C130 )
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in a real high threat environment like the DPRK?
Is DPRK a real threat environment or a paper tiger?
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