TFR F-16s
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You seem to have missed a few relevant pages of the manual. Short version then; there is multiple versions of the block 40. The USAF block 40s are partially modeled CCIP Vipers, and dont carry LANTIRN. European Air Forces block 40s however do carry the LANTIRN pods still.
Each block of F-16 in 4.32 can load either Sniper or LANTIRN.
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LANTIRN is a two pod system. AN/AAQ-13 navigation pod (this contains TFR and FLIR) and the AN/AAQ-14 targeting pod. So which is missing? I have no tried TFR but many times I clicked on TGP and I did not see so far on any F-16 the navigational pod on left intake HP.
What about other TFR and LGB capable AC? F-15E? It also uses pod for TFR. What about Tornado, F-111 or Su-24?
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Its all there in the manual. If you load the TGP as in 4.32 on an F-16 which is a LANTIRN block, you get both the AAQ-13 and -14 pods. You cannot get one by itself without the other.
If you load the TGP on any other block F-16, you get the Sniper ATP instead.
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According to the manual, TFR should be available on Bl.30 and 40, but it’s not (at least in a TE I created).
F-16C/D b42
F-16C b52+ HAF (+CFT)
KF-16C b32/52
F-16I (+CFT)
F-16C b32/40/52+ EAFThe manual is incorrect.
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Its all there in the manual. If you load the TGP as in 4.32 on an F-16 which is a LANTIRN block, you get both the AAQ-13 and -14 pods. You cannot get one by itself without the other.
If you load the TGP on any other block F-16, you get the Sniper ATP instead.
Are the AN/AAQ-13 navigation pod + Sniper is not possible in game / RL?
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Dunno about mixing and matching those two IRL but definitely doesnt work in 4.33 at least.
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F-16C/D b42
F-16C b52+ HAF (+CFT)
KF-16C b32/52
F-16I (+CFT)
F-16C b32/40/52+ EAFThe manual is incorrect.
There is nothing more frustrating that reading these comments while they are plain wrong and easily checked before such statement are made on the forum.
It would be nice to check your statement before you say our work is wrong.We could be wrong because honeslty this was probably changed 45 times during the course of the final development and it’s one of the aspect we had to track and change dozen of times in the manuals
still DAsh 1 page 85The Terrain Following Radar has been completely updated in 4.33 and is now fully operational.
It is available only on F-16s carrying both LANTIRN pods (Block 25/30/32/40 EAF/42/52+, KF-16 & F-16I).So tell me where that part is incorrect, because that bit in the Dash1 looks pretty spot on (in the meantime, block25 might have been removed i reckon
Still what was incomplete was the post above yours which you took for granted without bothering to checkYep, it was on. It’s only loading the right hardpoint but nothing on the left…
I’ll tell you more: the Block 40 loads the Sniper instead of the Lantirnit was decided at some point to have the USAF block 40 to have HTS one and the block 42 to keep the lantirn - because it made sense with the WAR HUD. the EAF block40 can use the lantirn from that above list
Anyway. When you say USAF block 40, do check that you are not assimilating block 40 & 42 because it’s either HTS or lantirn, not both -
Last mission of USAF with the TFR on a F-16 was around ~1994, the software is there in all blocks above 40 by default, and even in older block 30 if they are upgraded to newer tapes, but, the NVP pods are removed from USAF viper-fleet inventory since then. HTS, which was originally designed for position 5R was updated after NVP removal to be placed in position 5L, allowing the carrying of a/any TGP pod on 5R.
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Some 3D F16 models have only Sniper pod and others has full LANTIRN + TGP suite so it was decided to follow 3d model setting and allow TFR only on F-16 variants that have both LANTIRN and TGP pods on 3d model.
Its limitation of Falcon from day 0 that pods are integral part of plane 3d model and not loadable as other weapons and will not be changed till someday we can load pods as normal weapons.
You can set it as you wish (by editing corresponding fm dat file) to have TFR and you risk it will not visually match pods on 3d model. If you are ok to have TFR with just sniper pod go ahead and change it. We decided this to be in line with 3D models we have available for 4.33 release.
It have nothing to do about RL constrains or so, Comprende?
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@Red:
So tell me where that part is incorrect, because that bit in the Dash1 looks pretty spot on (in the meantime, block25 might have been removed i reckon
Still what was incomplete was the post above yours which you took for granted without bothering to checkThe part in bold. I noticed it as well this morning while reading the -34.
The only variants which get the whole LANTIRN system are the following: Block 32/52 ROK, Block 52+ HAF, Block 32/40 EAF, Block 42 US, F-16I,
(AN/AAQ-13/14 was replaced on Block 25/30/32 by AN/AAQ-28 last May, so RC6).
Don’t bother updating the docs, it’s gonna be irrelevant soon…
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@Switch:
The part in bold. I noticed it as well this morning while reading the -34.
The only variants which get the whole LANTIRN system are the following: Block 32/52 ROK, Block 52+ HAF, Block 32/40 EAF, Block 42 US, F-16I,
(AN/AAQ-13/14 was replaced on Block 25/30/32 by AN/AAQ-28 last May, so RC6).
Don’t bother updating the docs, it’s gonna be irrelevant soon…
Thanks for clarifying
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@Switch:
Don’t bother updating the docs, it’s gonna be irrelevant soon…
yeah in 3 to 4 weeks !!!