Ideal system for 4.33
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Just wanted to know if anyone has figured a good/great combo “cpu & video” card for all us enthusiasts for bms 4.33. ATI video card,AMD processor, Intel processor, NVIDIA video card. All eye candy enabled no lag from TGP.
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Intel is the GO. (And I have been a AMD Fan, and still am)
GPU: ATI or Nvida but you need to go mid level or above (R9-380 or GTX 760/960)
8gig of quality ram, A good Name Brand PSU 500w(a 1000w PSU is not always “better”) And a good MotherBoard not a cheapy.
A well vented filtered case is a must. Cool master N400/500 or Antech 300
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Everything runs great on my system. See my sig.
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Intel is the GO. (And I have been a AMD Fan, and still am)
GPU: ATI or Nvida but you need to go mid level or above (R9-380 or GTX 760/960)
8gig of quality ram, A good Name Brand PSU 500w(a 1000w PSU is not “better”) And a good MotherBoard not a cheapy.
A well vented filtered case is a must. Cool master N400/500 or Antech 300
Any confirmations on that? Espacially on the point with the GTX960?
Thought about a i7-4790K and a GA-Z97X Gaming 3 Motherboard plus a GTX-Series GPU.Thx for answers in advance
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No easy answer I’m afraid… it really depends on the requirements from the system. Key information will be?
What is your main screen resolution? (and I suggest to think also about the close future…)
Are you extracting displays? and if yes how many displays?For running the sim with all Graphics options maxed out and keeping relatively high FPS with TPG & WPN on, I suggest to get a high-end V-Card, something in the level of the GTX-980.
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Thanks for your fast answer!
I’m planning to use it as a full Simulator-System, which actually means, that I’ll run at least 1 Beamer, 3 USB-Monitors and a lot of USB-Input-Devices and some OLED-Displays (DED & Co.).
Should I consider two GPUs with SLI option and maybe a better CPU than the i7-4790? -
To maybe give you some idea, I’m running BMS 4.33 (64bit) on these specs.
CPU: Intel i7-4790k @ 4.00GHz
GPU: MSi R9 380 4Gb DDR5 OC (drivers: until earlier today, AMD 15-9, if I recall correctly, but now AMD Radeon Crimson. Still need to check if it makes a difference)
RAM: G.Skill 2x4Gb SDRAM-DDR3-1600 Ripjaws
Motherboard: MSi Z97 Gaming 5
OS: Win7 Home Premium 64bit
Hard drive: Seagate Barracuda 1Tb 7200RPM (+ 120Gb Samsung 850 EVO SSD for OS and other software)
Monitor: Medion Akoya MD20110 (23.6" 1920x1080 60Hz) via HDMII only extract the DED on my Logitech G13, using AIC 6.4, and I need to have TrackIR 5 software and the HOTAS Cougar Control Panel running in the background. Sometimes, I also have MSi Afterburner running to record and monitor GPU performance. I try to be the only active Windows-profile on my computer, to make sure that other profiles don’t have processes running.
I have every graphic setting maxed out. Once I get the loading screen, it takes me about 20-30 seconds to go in-pit. I haven’t done any big battles yet, but I get approximately 30-35 FPS at Kunsan, 60-70 FPS airborne in-pit with poor weather and TGP image on MFD (flying the BAF F16A-MLU). To be perfectly honest, I expected a slightly better performance with my setup, but my GPU generally doesn’t go above ~65° C (~150° F) and usually remains <30% RPM. Haven’t checked CPU usage or temperatures during flights yet, but I’m guessing I still have a comfortable overhead there as well, and lack of better performance is probably due to BMS not optimally utilizing the hardware?
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Any confirmations on that? Espacially on the point with the GTX960?
Thought about a i7-4790K and a GA-Z97X Gaming 3 Motherboard plus a GTX-Series GPU.Thx for answers in advance
I think the GTX 960 will be a disappointment, at least a 970 or 980 with that CPU/Mobo
I have had a good run with both Antec and Coolermaster PSUs
With shrinking Die sizes for ICs and general design efficiency the power requirements from CPUs & GPUs has declined some what over the last few years.
Except some of AMD topline CPUs are still power hungry !
A well constructed 550-650 watt unit would normally be more then adequate and I have personally run X-fire on the 650w (HD-4850s and then 5850s) and still run on it today with a HD7950.
I have known people who purchased online deals that give you a noname 750w PSU only to see it fail a few months latter where it has been carrying minimal load.
PS: Get good memory and run it at 2133 speeds. Something like G.SKILL DDR3-2133 8GB Dual Channel [RipjawsX] F3-17000CL11D-8GBXL
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Dont get fooled with memory speeds, you don’t get more fps 1800mhz vs 2300mhz …may get 1fps more
Just get cheapest memory and you are good to go.
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Thank you for all your inputs!
@ Eagle-Eye: You are running almost the same Elements I took together for my research and reference for other PC-Parts like PSU, Housing and HDD. Thanks for your Reply! I’m a bit afraid of the 30-35 FPS at Kunsan. Is that in SP or MP?@Shadow: As you are handling an Intel even as a AMD-Fan, I’m very confindent on my choose of a Intel. Could you tell me, which one you run exactly?
I already have 10GB RAM 1600 DDR3 from my current System, I think it will be enough for the Start. What would you say about that?Have a nice Monday Guys, if Mondays can be nice [emoji14]
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@ Eagle-Eye: You are running almost the same Elements I took together for my research and reference for other PC-Parts like PSU, Housing and HDD. Thanks for your Reply! I’m a bit afraid of the 30-35 FPS at Kunsan. Is that in SP or MP?
Mostly MP, but I don’t think there’s a big difference with SP. So far, the only time I brought my system to its knees entirely was when dropping a B61 over Seoul, reducing the FPS to 3 , but I’d have to do a Day 1 Campaign to get a realistic stress-test in busy environments. Maybe later today…
My PSU is a Corsair VX550W, by the way, and case is an Antec 300.A squadron member runs a 4K resolution + second monitor for extraction (not sure, but I think all on a single nVidia GTX 970 4G or 980 4G) at 15-20 FPS in poor weather, up to 30 in good weather, with (almost) everything enabled and maxed out. While testing Crimson’s VSR, I had similar results on my rig, but oddly, it doesn’t actually feel like such a low FPS-rate. It’s only when the FPS goes below 10 that you really notice the stuttering.
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Alright thanks Eagle-Eye, MP is exactly my target. Sounds well. A Campaign Test would be really interesting if you have time
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Just had a quick go at it.
SP, Rolling Fire, Day 1 takeoff 0610J at Kunsan, I got 8-10 FPS. At that moment there were only 12-ish aircraft taxiing, and a Patriot keeping watch. Once above 200ft and the airbase behind me, however, FPS went up to 15-20, with a peak at 30-35 at high altitude (FL250+). Then, at FLOT, it dropped down to an average of 15-20 again. At one point, when looking at two Mil Mi-8’s and a few KS-19’s through the TGP, it went as low as 10-12. In this flight, I did notice it stutters slightly, but it’s still very doable.
Unfortunately, I forgot to activate ACMI, so I can’t check how many units were around the FLOT, but AWACS kept chatting away, RWR was chirping continuously and FCR picked up contacts all the time so …
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Alright, thank you Eagle-Eye!
But the FPS-Rates are not really that, what I try to achieve with a completely new set up
Should not go below 15-18 even in Kunsan with full Ramps. -
Only playing MP here, I have the following:
I5 4670k (no overclock) , 8gb corsair ram, gtx770 2gb.Runs very nicely, I have yet to check my fps, but it’s very smooth. This system is 2.5 years old.
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Dont get fooled with memory speeds, you don’t get more fps 1800mhz vs 2300mhz …may get 1fps more
Just get cheapest memory and you are good to go.
Sorry haukka but I disagree.
I just recently changed the way I OC the i5 3570k I use, to keep the story short I also underclocked the CPU down to 3GHz and then back to 4.1GHz and testing in Falcon & 3dMark as I progressed.
Both programs showed negligible scaling, even taking into account the HD 7950 (R9-280/380) as a limiting factor driving a 32" 2560x1440 display.
However I did see a almost proportional performance benefit when taking my memory from 1600MHz through 1866MHz to 2133MHz. while maintaining timings @__CL 11-11-11__ (G.SKILL DDR3-2133 8GB Dual Channel [RipjawsX] F3-17000CL11D-8GBXL)
Until now I had only made a halfhearted attempt at OC, having left the Memory at 1600MHz.
These results were in a TE heavily loaded with AI units within 20nm (well over 500) at Kunsan with a default CCC & Falcon setup. So in this case it is the CPU and maybe to a lesser extent perhaps the display data transfer gaining a noticeable benefit.
With regards
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For what it’s worth: Tried the same as Eagle Eye: Rolling Fire day 1 flight around 0610LT @ Kunsan
- In pit 45-55 (down to 45 with TGP)
- Airborne 50-60 (down to 35 with TGP)
- FLOT 40-50 (down to 25 with TGP)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G45 Gaming (stock BIOS, nothing changed yet)
CPU: Intel i5-4670k @ 3.46GHz (not OC’ed yet)
GPU: MSI R7970 Lightning Boost
AMD Radeon Crimson settings:
_- Anti Alias: ignore game settings; 8xEQ standard filter, multisampling- Morphologic filtering off
- Anisotropic filtering: ignore game settings; level 2x,
- Quality texture filter: performance, optimize surface: on,
- Vertical sync: always on
- Tripple buffering: on
- Shader cache & mosaic mode: optimized for AMD
- FPS control: 60FPS
- Slightly OC’ed: CPU 1150MHz, Memory clock 1500MHz_
RAM: Corsair 2x 4GB DDR3-1600 Vengeance
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G45 Gaming
OS: Win7 Home Premium 64bit
Hard drives: Samsung 840 Pro 128GB SSD (OS, BMS, cockpit software) + 2TB Hitachi 7200rpm (other software not needed during flight)
Monitors: cheap Philips 273V5LHSB 27” LED 1920x1080 HDMI main + cheap HP LP2065 22” 1600x1200 DVI for extractions
Case: Corsair Carbide 300R
Power: Cooler Master V650 semi-modular
BMS 4.33 hardware settings:
- cockpit display to external window
- high res textures
- NO low res clouds
- NO reduced particle system
- glass environment mapping
- per-pixel lighting
- NO HDR
- jet heat exhaust blur
- NO motion blur
- all rain effects
- cockpit shadows
- NO focus shadows (made huge difference for my FPS)
- NO shadow on smoke (made huge difference for my FPS)
- Water environment mapping clouds, NO focus object reflection
- Triple Buffering
BMS 4.33 grahpical settings: - 1920x180 60HZ
- Multisampling Level 1
- Vsync ON
- Object density 6, object detail 7
- Tree & grass density max
- Anisotropic OFF
- all others in advanced options on
Extraction with BMS
- RWR & DED
Extraction with Lightning MFDE - a shitload of other stuff
(See here, then RWR & DED were also MFDE but for BAF MLU I now need specific RWR symbology and I like the realistic BMS DED font more)
Other software running (mostly for pit stuff):
- AIC
- 2 Pokeys with F4toPokeys
- Arduino UNO & DUE
- TrackIR
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does someone think it would help on Windows10 to updrade 8gb of ram to 12 or 16?
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does someone think it would help on Windows10 to updrade 8gb of ram to 12 or 16?
Wont help with falcon, i was 8gb and now i have 12gb = zero help.
Use some program to log your mem usage so you see it after playing.