Update v1.0.5 for Balkans 4.33.1c1
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Thanks a lot, our Group will pay you a nice dinner on a good restaurant in Rimini!
Hey, that isn’t fair…
What about “nove” and myself? :mrgreen:
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Another time but I have not other words
Congratulations
Cheers
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Hey, that isn’t fair…
What about “nove” and myself? :mrgreen:
Nikos.We would like to meet all of you and in that occasion no one will be without feet under the table…
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We would like to meet all of you and in that occasion no one will be without feet under the table…
I think that you see that it was ONLY a nice joke, right?
Thanks for the kindly offer by the way, and enjoy the new goodies of Balkans.
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I think that you see that it was ONLY a nice joke, right?
Thanks for the kindly offer by the way, and enjoy the new goodies of Balkans.
Nikos.The beer’s on me if we ever meet in RL. :bdance:
All the best, Uwe
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I know it was a joke … but considering the great fun and joy for anyone from AMVI which can participate at our yearly LAN Party, usually at Rimini, it could be an opportunity too.
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Hi guys.
Firstly thanks for updateBut after updated Balkans
falcon bms corrapted and stop workingI need help
Thanks
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You might have to do a reinstall of bms. Did you follow the instructions in the readme file?
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You might have to do a reinstall of bms. Did you follow the instructions in the readme file?
Yes. Is there any suggestion
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Nikos, my friend…
Well done for new stations+ils … nicely organized, names updated etc … Thank You
I am tryin’ to print that list up once for all … but not yet I’m afraidBut, that’s about 15th time it was updated, and now, dude, you’ve forgot dozens uhf radio’s (0), mission commander is ‘all in red’ , I can see Greece has all uhf. Good homework
No really, was that by design or mistake? Will that have other impact(s) then using VHF only ? (remember, only uhf radio has backup in falcon)
Regards
WFedit: nvm, figured it out, it will be updated soon , again , atc callsigns etc… well…
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I f… love this theater! Great job!!! thx!!!
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Thank you for this beautiful theater, outstanding!!!
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Nikos, my friend…
Well done for new stations+ils … nicely organized, names updated etc … Thank You
I am tryin’ to print that list up once for all … but not yet I’m afraidBut, that’s about 15th time it was updated, and now, dude, you’ve forgot dozens uhf radio’s (0), mission commander is ‘all in red’ , I can see Greece has all uhf. Good homework
No really, was that by design or mistake? Will that have other impact(s) then using VHF only ? (remember, only uhf radio has backup in falcon)
Regards
WFedit: nvm, figured it out, it will be updated soon , again , atc callsigns etc… well…
First of all I personally don’t know if this is the 15th time that the Balkans NavAids updated. The previous version was by Red Dog and it was very close to 15 September 2011 (or a little earlier, not later for sure).
For that date, he made a great work. Now after 5 years I wanted to update them and make them current, as also to correct some small issues that I did.
Second you state that I forgot dozens of ATC UHF frequencies. Of course you like to guess, estimate and in general to base your opinion to non real perfect current data.
Stop doing that, because maybe you don’t realize it, you are directly offend to my work with "and now, dude, you’ve forgot dozens uhf radio’s "! It takes a lot to collect ALL the real (especially military) data, to analyze them, to find any duplicates for avoiding conflicts due to BMS code limitation and to finally place them in the list as also in the “stations+ils.dat” file and give them to the BMS users, without to make mistakes!
You very easily judge the work by a guy that spends a lot of time in order to provide perfect and super real data in these nav. stuff and has NO complains for them by years!
And very bad the statement that I provide for Greece (my country) all the airports with ATC UHF. Of course you like to guess and estimate, so you don’t/can’t find the real stuff to see that actually they have!
By the way, learn that almost all the airports in Greece has also an ATC UHF frequency!
And your guess that the Balkans NavAids will updated soon is of course out of real status. They don’t need to change something because they are perfect!
Last the ATC callsigns are not my job, neither was in the previous version. If my friend “cougar56th” need my help for that, then of course it will be my business.Nikos.
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Nikos, would I call you a friend if I wanted to insult you ?
Apologies, You misunderstood me. I didn’t try to offend You or any of your work, that actually have to be done in due time…. Maybe my english is just not on the brightest side.
"and now, dude, you’ve forgot dozens uhf radio’s " - meant , how haven’t you noticed that error , or was it intentional, I’ve put a lot questions marks , that was all a part of question…
We don’t know what are you doing if you don’t tell us … I was just simply surprised.
And, I was tried to be a bit sarcastic, but on the bright side, ya’know, shit happens, haha, big deal…But the real reason that interests me here is, why we must first destroy all data then rebuild it from scratch, in my opinion that is wrong in this case.
Why tear it down? We can leave it as is, then update it with current data when that data becomes available. One by one, update case, is just a bit too excessive to adapt.
I know that data is hard to find, possibility is that for some we never gonna be able to find it… but then why deleting old values?, C’mon . Does it have to be 150% realistic, or at least just useful?Please don’t be offended just for constructive criticism, it was never meant to be rude and offensive, ok, maybe sarcastic sneeky , but not like ’ in your face dude’ , I do actually very very respect your work , and you’ve done a lot more then most of us, especially with NavAids, So what if you ****edup , who didn’t ? is it beyond repair?, No.
And Please, You don’t take things like meaning they are getto racisist , … omfg , whole ****ing world is coming like this and i think it is popular but is very sick… and dear God is just looking down at us and think , gonna squash some beetles soon…Please accept my apologies again for any insult taken, it was not meant to be like this,… I thought You just needed a little push more towards people and not machines We re human afterall and we rule machines and not vice versa, agreed?
Cheers
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Nikos, would I call you a friend if I wanted to insult you ?
Apologies, You misunderstood me. I didn’t try to offend You or any of your work, that actually have to be done in due time…. Maybe my english is just not on the brightest side.
"and now, dude, you’ve forgot dozens uhf radio’s " - meant , how haven’t you noticed that error , or was it intentional, I’ve put a lot questions marks , that was all a part of question…
We don’t know what are you doing if you don’t tell us … I was just simply surprised.
And, I was tried to be a bit sarcastic, but on the bright side, ya’know, shit happens, haha, big deal…But the real reason that interests me here is, why we must first destroy all data then rebuild it from scratch, in my opinion that is wrong in this case.
Why tear it down? We can leave it as is, then update it with current data when that data becomes available. One by one, update case, is just a bit too excessive to adapt.
I know that data is hard to find, possibility is that for some we never gonna be able to find it… but then why deleting old values?, C’mon . Does it have to be 150% realistic, or at least just useful?Please don’t be offended just for constructive criticism, it was never meant to be rude and offensive, ok, maybe sarcastic sneeky , but not like ’ in your face dude’ , I do actually very very respect your work , and you’ve done a lot more then most of us, especially with NavAids, So what if you ****edup , who didn’t ? is it beyond repair?, No.
And Please, You don’t take things like meaning they are getto racisist , … omfg , whole ****ing world is coming like this and i think it is popular but is very sick… and dear God is just looking down at us and think , gonna squash some beetles soon…Please accept my apologies again for any insult taken, it was not meant to be like this,… I thought You just needed a little push more towards people and not machines We re human afterall and we rule machines and not vice versa, agreed?
Cheers
WFYou continue to state for a sector that really you are far away of the basics.
In the one side you post complains about the “0” UHF frequencies, and now you state that it is o.k. and why I made them from scratch?
What’s wrong with you? You think that your opinion reflects the opinion by all the other members (myself included of course) here that always ask for more and more realism and perfection?
And when a guy offer that to them, now you came to say it is a wrong action? Maybe to think again with a “cold” mine what exactly you posted.
Now you post this “We don’t know what are you doing if you don’t tell us … I was just simply surprised.”
Who do you think you are that I must give explanations about my work to? I’m an external independent specific Falcon developer that with love and dedication offer to this community my work and I don’t need to give explanations to anyone, and especially to you with that behavior!
And yes, of course and you were offending, very clearly!
If I was you, that you don’t know anything of Falcon BMS NavAids and how they actually work into the sim, then I was post something like this:
“Nikos, is there something wrong with the “0” UHF frequencies?” This is the correct polite behavior that leaves no room for “misunderstandings” like you want to cover it, and not with the "dude, you’ve forgot dozens uhf radio’s ".
And why you mention for Greek airports that all have a UHF frequency (that actually have) with the ironic "Good homework "? Again because you wanted to ask polite? Obviously not, just to leave the meaning of a not fair providing data since the greek airports have all a UHF frequency. Because that was the way you were wanted to see, and not to simply ask me with a polite tone!Last I always welcome and accept any criticism, WHEN it is correct and based to the real status!
Anyway, I will welcome you to create your NavAids and their list with your correct and great method, in order to we all the rest see how you can do them. And of course I will be the first one to spot the REAL issues there, but at least with a polite behavior that I always follow.
That is our main difference…Nikos.
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white fang, keep it civil
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All right ppl, let’s put a bit of order in here.
To start with, white fang, you’re on holiday for a 2 weeks. consider yourself very happy because you came pretty close to a perma ban with an insult like the one you let go. Never EVER answer a post in the heat of the moment.
Second, Neystratiou you need to learn to take the criticism better. white fang’s reaction was unpardonable but it probably wouldn’t have happened if you calmed the situation rather than heating up like you did defending against a pseudo attack.
the original argument is valid, you can’t take it as constructive, but it’s valid nevertheless. And i should know since i made all the navigation work before you.
The main point is that you are indeed entitled to work the way you see fit. there is NO ONE that can question that. Again, I do the same.
The guy doing the hardwork can decide the way he wants to work. the other guy just doing nothing stuff it and accept that. if their advices are not taken into consideration then they can start proving that they are able to do their own hardwork. So i’m fully behind you on that argument.But there was no point to push it further than that. That fact is more than enough to gently conclude the argument.
You don’t have to go into lenghty posts heating up the situation like:you are directly offend to my work with "and now, dude, you’ve forgot dozens uhf radio’s "!
to find any duplicates for avoiding conflicts due to BMS code limitation and to finally place them in the list as also in the “stations+ils.dat”
you take offence for constructive criticism, WF was totally right !! there is No need to have 0 set uhf frequency - as me you perfectly know that you will not find uhf for all airports, so basically you will have to compromize, or clearly state that if the airport has no real freq in real life, then there is no uhf in falcon and advise the users to simply use VHF, problem solved.
You very easily judge the work by a guy that spends a lot of time in order to provide perfect and super real data in these nav. stuff and has NO complains for them by years!
and you on the first critic you take off like a rocket defending your honor, comon be a little bit more open minded
What’s wrong with you? You think that your opinion reflects the opinion by all the other members (myself included of course) here that always ask for more and more realism and perfection?
You think that, not WF. If WF opinion doesn’t reflect the rest of the community, why do you defend yourself so vehemently?
And yes, of course and you were offending, very clearly!
Not at all, he was calming the situation, and you failed to see it and accept it. WF is banned because he overreacted and had a few misplaced words, which we moderators won’t let go. But you are as responsible as him because WF clearly tried to calm down the situation and you were too proud to accept it and let it go
Last I always welcome and accept any criticism, WHEN it is correct and based to the real status!
wrong. taking criticism is also accepting that you may be wrong. whit what you state above you can’t take criticism, as proven here above.
Who do you think you are that I must give explanations about my work to?
You have to. That goes with sharing your work. Again, simply tell ppl to use VHF, problem solved without any unnecessary argument. Sharing your work with the community also means you have to tell ppl how to use your work
And I can tell you as i have been in your position doing the exact same thing for way longer than you !It’s not the first time i’m warning you Nikos. we have been here before.
In my views, you’d be both banned. The reason i didn’t ban you is the work you share with the community, but that doesn’t excuse everything.
if you start to be too much work for us moderators, then the outcome will be previsible.and remember, as mod I don’t have to explain myself, again i do it with you on respect of what you’re doing, so see this the right way and don’t start lenghty argument with moderation.
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Back to topic question: I’m very sorry for silly question, everything running fine, thanks for add WeatherMapUpdates folder :D, but how can I see Italian Tornado skin? I still see British and German only.
many thanks.
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Back to topic question: I’m very sorry for silly question, everything running fine, thanks for add WeatherMapUpdates folder :D, but how can I see Italian Tornado skin? I still see British and German only.
many thanks.
GWhich Tornados are you flying?