Delilah cruise altitude
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I note the setting to change the weapons cruise altitude, 0 is msl so setting 500ft (for example) will just fly straight into the ground. My question is do we have any info on what the current ground height above sea level is so i can programme the altitude accordingly?
Thanks
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Do I understand right, you want to get the altitude of the ground (so that you can add for example 500ft to that altitude)?
I guess Barometer altitude - Radar altitude would be one possibility.
But it would be better using the map (printed or digital on a tablet) and check the highest peak value of the squares you travel.
Check http://www.combatsimchecklist.net/MAPKOREA/, in the first square on top left you read 3². As long as you are above that altitude, you will not kiss anything.
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Yes, that’s exactly what I want to do - so does 3² equal 3,200ft?
I wondered what those number meant!
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in general, keep the missile at about 9Kft MSL, Delilah is not built to be flying at very low altitude.
having it in 9Kft AGL most of the time is a good number.
if you want a better view of the target, go down to 6 or 4.5Kft AGL.you can susually judge your decent pretty well… but be cautions when sending the missle to a go arround. as terrain may vary considerably along the GA path. (which is why a higher altitude is good).
I usually launch at 15-20Kft (MSL). and keep the missile there, once I have target area in sight, I will command the missile to descend to 12Kft, and sometimes to 9Kft. (I susually go down to 9Kft while missile is in GA).
on a second pass I might put in 6Kft (MSL) to the missile, which I will by then be able to decide if it’s safe or not.programming 6Kft right off the rail is not giving you any advantage as you reduce your visibility range and shallowing the view angle, making it harder to spot targets.
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Yes, that’s exactly what I want to do - so does 3² equal 3,200ft?
I wondered what those number meant!
It’s the safety Altitude, due to safety it has already 500ft added to the terrain peak.
And yes, 3² means 3.200ft. I checked, Paektusan, highest Mountain of North Korea, it is 9000ft tall. On the map you read 9^5 (and also at coastline you read minimum 0^6).
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It’s the safety Altitude, due to safety it has already 500ft added to the terrain peak….
Not exactly right. It’s the MEF, maximum elevation figure, the highest known point of elevation. To stay safe add 500 feet for the MSA, minimum safe altitude.
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@jc1:
Not exactly right. It’s the MEF, maximum elevation figure, the highest known point of elevation. To stay safe add 500 feet for the MSA, minimum safe altitude.
Is the map ingamegenerated, or how come, that everything seems to have +500ft?
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Is the map ingamegenerated, or how come, that everything seems to have +500ft?
Good call SnowSky.
I checked and found MEF (Maximum Elevation Figure) is considered to be height of structure or natural object plus a safety factor, differing by countryPaektusan
Samjiyon airport southeast of Paektusan
Red Dog’s BMS airport map near Paektusan
Red Dog’s airport map seems to accurately reflect the Northeast MSA 9000 because Paektusan is more than 25 miles from Samjiyon airport. However the mountain southeast of Samjiyon appear to be within 25 miles and 8900 feet (not quite as high as the highest mountain, Paektusan) because Red Dog’s MSA is for that southeast section is 9400, including 500 feet for safety.
So it looks like the 4.33.1 Training.pdf on p30 recommends 500 ft above MEF for a MSA (Minimum Safety Altitude) because Federal Aviation Regulation Sec. 91.119 — Minimum safe altitudes: General.
(b) Over congested areas. Over any congested area of a city, town, or settlement, or over any open air assembly of persons, an altitude of 1,000 feet above the highest obstacle within a horizontal radius of 2,000 feet of the aircraft.
Over other than congested areas. An altitude of 500 feet above the surface, except over open water or sparsely populated areas. In those cases, the aircraft may not be operated closer than 500 feet to any person, vessel, vehicle, or structure.Looks like the advice in the Training.pdf on p30 can be ignored if safety is achieved by following MEF on Red Dog’s Map and MSA on Red Dog’s airport charts. Thanks Red Dog.