Refuel with the Cougar
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Hi mastersetter,
Brakes out…… OK. I will try!!! It would be interesting to know if even in real life pilot use this way.
Thanks! Ciao
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Hi mastersetter,
Brakes out…… OK. I will try!!! It would be interesting to know if even in real life pilot use this way.
Thanks! Ciao
Never saw it on any aar video, and I saw a lot. Even couldnt think of any sense in doing this, you are going to the tanker to take up fuel for your mission and not for compensating the higher fuel flow due the higher drag you get with airbrakes out
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Hi mastersetter,
Brakes out…… OK. I will try!!! It would be interesting to know if even in real life pilot use this way.
Thanks! Ciao
Real military pilots practice the skills involved in refueling on just about every single flight they make, and dont need to do it this way.
Simply put, if your formation skills are at the level they expect, boom refueling is not difficult. Its the same as flying formation - just a different position.
Most BMS pilots need some assistance because most dont bother to practice formation work and many never bother to learn it in the first place.
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Recently watched a cockpit video of f16 keeping close formation and the constant throttle rocking was very evident.
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Since the Warthog was installed I was a bit “worried” I might not be able to refuel as smooth as I used to with my FSSB modded Cougar, but I found it easier. It’s all down to the far better resolution of the throttle. A TUSBA TQS will sort you out no bother. I doubt a Hall Sensor on its own would help much (unless your throttle is spikey as heck) cos ultimately the standard electronics will be at the same res as before the mod.
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Recently watched a cockpit video of f16 keeping close formation and the constant throttle rocking was very evident.
So is the longer throttle arm. Keep in mind that fore aft motion of the throttle is magnified on the real jet due to that.
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Hi all,
Real a lot of good indication from y. I have to train a lot but i am sure i will go to do it!
Thanks a lot.
Gundam
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For the hall sensor first observe if your throttle is spiking. If it’s an old one most probably it will. Had this problem and went for the hall sensor. Smooth as it should.
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Just practice my friend. Only practice.
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to be fair, unless your stick barely works (and i mean really barely) it’s all in giving it a few hours’ practice.
i have several flying buddies that use 20$ logitech sticks and still easily manage AAR. the more precise stick you have, the easier theoretically it gets but no amount of stick precision compensates for lack of knowledge, it’s just the way it is.
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I have seen improved throttle resolution and control after getting both the TUSBA and then again the Miles Hall Sensor TQS mod. The original TQS has only 8-bit control and ever degrading analog potentiometer. These two mods transform the TQS into a modern higher resolution and stable usb controller, the perfect mate to a force modded Cougar or WHog stick like either the FSSB or FCC.
Key to refueling is getting a proper sight picture of what the “cleared to contact” and “connected” look like. Then its about throttle control and the director lights. Some tricks I use are:
- small sea-sawing of the throttle, which should be decreasing input until stabilized.
- making up/down stick corrections at no more than one or two horizontal FPM widths. This prevents the porpoising rollercoaster ride effect. Be precise and patient allowing for momentum and response to work out.
- trim up a few clicks when tanker is in a turn
- before overriding the radar, note the exact speed of the tanker when its in refueling mode
- fly fast flow close formation position when youre next up to get into the groove