Harder??? TE5-AAR or TE6-ILS Weather
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Another one …
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I gave it a shot. Managed to stay on the arc, tbh I found it more difficult to keep the needles centered than to fly the arc.
Geez, I made so many attempts trying to keep the BP at 90° until steerpoint 7 was DIRECTLY AHEAD, even after the CDI crossed 130°, thinking that I would need just 10° to line up. It was always impossible and I thought that my problem had something to do with the wind.
should have been at 3500.
Watching your video, Bluwolf, made me realize at this point I was on the 130 radial and this is the time to make the right turn to 320. THANKS to you I can now do the ILS heads down bad weather landing after flying the DMEARC. And DeeJay’s posting later was helpful too.
I changed my opinion from the first post in this thread: AAR is more difficult than ILS-heads down Weather. -
hehe, Still it’s all explained in the training manual chapter relevant to that mission
The approach will be made in two steps. The first will be to fly the ARCDME until you cross Radial 130° and then we will turn to intercept the ILS on RWY32….
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I made reference to your tutorial in the chapter and found it quite helpful RD!
I have made a brief assessment of my approach, and graded it overall as U, for the airspeed excursion (+/- 10% max for a Q-, +10/-5 kts for a Q). Otherwise Q- (altitude excursion of up to 300 ft, up to 200 ft would be a Q).
So after all that effort, still a hook
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don’t feel bad.
Doing the training manual, i was pushed by the wind as well and went to 15 DME -
@Red:
hehe, Still it’s all explained in the training manual chapter relevant to that mission
Absolutely, even more precisely your training manual says
Once the CDI centres immediately switch the HSI to TCN/ILS mode and start a right turn towards 320°.
And your chart tutorial also explains it in 4 different locations (p34, p37, p63, p65). So I’m scratching my head wondering what the hell was I thinking when your documentation is so complete and interesting.
Thanks for all your documentation as it has proved to be indispensable to the fun and enjoyment of Falcon BMS.
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@Red:
don’t feel bad.
Doing the training manual, i was pushed by the wind as well and went to 15 DMEI had 6 goes at making that video, and twice I got pushed out to 15 TACAN arc as well… (not technically DME). Still a Q is actually pretty easy for arc tolerance, Q grading is +/- 3 miles TACAN arc. Q- is more than 3 miles off the TACAN arc, and its at IP discretion when that becomes a hook.
I will say I got confused a little with the chart for taegu, was looking for the inbound radial on the chart and it took me longer than it should have to spot that it was 140 inbound (recip of 320).
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Also goes to show how useful it is videoing your flights. You learn so much by watching them again; it’s amazing what you miss when you’re in the thick of things, but notice quite easily when you can watch the video later.
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I wouldn’t be afraid to fly the arc as a polygon, level segments with 20 degree heading changes passing 16 or 14nm values. A constant bank arc is harder to fly with variable lead required for wind as you go around in a complex way.
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Eh, its not incredibly complicated… I like the constant bank angle, myself. If you have a good instrument scan its not so complex, either. Still, as you say, getting off the arc by a mile or two is not a huge cause for concern, either. TACAN is a non precision approach, anyway - as is the ILS until we get on the beam.
EDIT: I reckon TE 6 is the harder of the two.