Stop talking about flying online and get your butt airborne!
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Krause, nice vid buddy, and true! yes, you’re calling out all of us punk ss B*****.
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@Red:
thruth and knowledge are two relative things Radium.
You shouldn’t be tired because other ppl thinks differently than you.I know some guys who aren’t pilot but who know better about airplane than some pilots
I and know pilots that know much more than other pilots, and much more than virtual pilots - but none of them believe they know more than their crew chief (non pilots btw)
And I know quite a few virtual pilots who became real pilots too …the level of knowledge has nothing to do with what you do in life. it has to do with your dedication and curiosity in anything you do
Regardless, flying MP makes it even closer to the real deal because of the dimensions it adds !
So Krause’s message is valid whatever one is playing or another is flyingI am not tired of people thinking differently than me.
In fact, I am really opened on the fact that everybody shall feel free to play their favorite simulator as they wish to.
I don’t mind what people do. There is in this community many people who can pilot their simulated F-16 really nicely and perform missions pretty realistically.
But it’s still a game. There isn’t such thing as flying then. A flying mistake can kill you, simulation can’t. You can learn with simulation how to use an avionics, or how to execute some concepts, for entertainment purpose. Nicest people I met in the simulation community were humble enough to never forget it.
I just intended to temperate some statements. People can use their simulator as they wish to. They can fly with or without reading the manual, they can fly versus other people or not… This doesn’t makes them a good or bad simmer. After all, we all have different ideas of what it simulation. I am more interested by cognitics in simulation, some are more procedural, some prefer action.
To finish there, MP or not MP as nothing to do with realism, It’s just a matter of appreciation of the simmer, as realism is highly subjective.
Just to give you an example : I consider VR systems to be a great advance in simulation, which adds a lot of realism ingame. A friend of mine who is a very good and respectful BMS player, don’t feel the same. Does it means one is right and the other wrong? Not at all, we just have different views about realism in simulation.
As long as we respect each other’s way to simulate, there is no problem at all.
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Good video and so true.
Hear it all the time, “as soon as I get better”.I think much of this is people who are worried about making mistakes and ‘looking stupid’ in front of other people. Maybe what they don’t know is that we’ve ALL made those mistakes and ‘looked stupid’ from time-to-time. It’s called learning. Try it, make a mistake, try again.
Having others around who understand those mistakes, how they happen and how to fix them, will help you learn more faster. WAY faster then you ever will in single player.
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Took the plunge about 4 months ago. Never belonged to a VFS or nothing like that.
Now I’m flying every Sunday with a wonderful bunch of people who are more than willing to teach you lots of very useful stuff, and to help you become a better virtual pilot.
BMS single player is great
BMS multiplayer is the greatest.
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Took the plunge about 4 months ago. Never belonged to a VFS or nothing like that.
Now I’m flying every Sunday with a wonderful bunch of people who are more than willing to teach you lots of very useful stuff, and to help you become a better virtual pilot.
BMS single player is great
BMS multiplayer is the greatest.
Greetings. Jay.Gilbraltar??? love it man!
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I would love to fly online but I live about 25 miles northeast of Greeley Colorado.
There is no high speed internet out here. There is tumble weeds and phone lines,
THAT’S IT. I am stuck with single player unless I move and as much as it pains me
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@Red:
but none of them believe they know more than their crew chief (non pilots btw)
Yeah back during WW2 time frame the crew chief knew a lot. Now they are glorified gas attendants. They gas the bird, they change the tires, the clean the canopy. If you want to know a lot about the engine you go to the engine troops. If you want to know a lot about the avionics you go to the avionics troops, etc. etc.
I never met a crew chief in 25 years in the USAF that knew more than a pilot about the aircraft.
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Hi Krause:
Love your videos and I am signed up over at the UOAF forums. I am one of those guys that said that I was going to brush up on some stuff and then I’d be back. And if I am the first to do so, then I’ll wear that distinction with honor.
The ONLY reason I said I would brush up on stuff before coming back was all UOAFs SOPs and Ideal Behaviors and Minimal Competency posts. UOAF wants those things from its flyers but does not provide any formal training to get their pilots to the level of competency hoped for. So, those of us that want to fly with you guys over there are getting mixed signals. Also – and I get a good chuckle out of this – is I have seen you get frustrated when someone blows a brevity call or fails at some sort of task. Which is great fun when I am watching someone else make a mistake, but when it’s me I feel a bit guilty.
Anyway, as I said, but for UOAFs SOPs/Ideal Behavior/Minimal Competency/No Formal Familiarization-Training posts, I’d already be flying with UOAF members. But reading those, it occurred to me that I should brush up on a lot of that which I can do myself from the UOAF ideal behaviors post, and then see if I can get some informal flights with UOAF members and then I’d be ready for a guest spot in UOAF events.
Here’s Darkfiber’s shortlist of things to strive for
I still don’t know how to do all missions competently. I suck at pop-ups. I haven’t even tried bad weather combat missions yet. I know very little about brevity. So does UOAF really want to fly with me “as is”? Probably not in events just yet according to UOAF forums, but probably according to your video here. I do think I am now ready for some informal co-op stuff and will be trying to get some informal training and flights in this week over at UOAF.
FWIW I am not intimidated by others being better than me. I think of people that are better than me as someone I can learn from, so that’s not the issue. I am simply interpreting the minimum/ideal requirements posted by UOAF and trying to figure out if I am ready to be a guest. I honestly don’t know because I think you are saying jump in now if you can fly to and from a target but the vibe I get from your action videos and the UOAF forums is that you do expect a bit more competency than that. Maybe a lot of the others that have said they would go practice and come back are also confused by the mixed signals? I don’t know. I just thought I’d point out that maybe part of the problem is the new guy, but maybe the other part of the problem isn’t the new guy but the information that is made available to him.
Everyone is welcome to fly in pickups! Events you should have some baseline of competency - pretty low standards compared to other VFS though, and we don’t have any “Tests.”
However I tried to not to make this video a recruitment video for my squadron - it’s more of a general call to the guys who won’t fly with others unless they are perfect from the get-go. However, it’s not possible! It’s not even possible to be perfect years afterwards, and thousands of flight hours later!
Once new folks realize no one is expecting them to be gods - and that they will surely suck no matter how much prep they make, everyone can relax and enjoy themselves!
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aaand… there is this third group of virtual pilots: those that simply haven’t got the time now to regularly attend online flying. I am talking about family guys mainly, busy working all week long and dedicating their week-ends to the kids and their wife (and another million things going on every single day -if you are one of those, you know what i mean ; )
those who would happily join a VFW rather than do single player, but just know that they will get to spend only a few nights per year doing so, feeling that they won’t be able to progress within the VFW nor contribute much to it. but as this period of their life goes by, they will definitely sign up : )cheers
HiLok -
As one of those prime “as I get better” people, I have to put in my 2p…
I don’t see what’s wrong with taking the learning pace at the speed you like. I could join a vfs now but I’ve elected to get more proficient at the basics first,at my own pace and where time allows.
I’m applying to viper drivers soon but I feel it as my duty to get up to some level of proficiency before I join.
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There may be dozens of reasons why someone would prefer to fly off-line. If a user doesn’t feel like joining a virtual squadron, it does not automatically mean he cannot fly the simulated Viper. Besides, whether an activity is fun or not is a matter of purely subjective personal preferences. I’m not going to question the benefits a dedicated flyer can get from flying on-line, but the main advantage of the single player simming is the fact that one can freely choose the time for flying and the amount of time devoted to it.
In my case it’s not a matter of my proficiency level, and certainly not the language barrier, as I have reasons to believe my spoken English would be at least adequate for communication with my squadron mates. I simply am not the owner of the router via which I connect to the internet, and am not authorised to make any configuration adjustments that would most likely be required for on-line flying. -
A possible solution to invite new guys to MP might be to open a dedicated server which anyone can just hop in.
One of my friends is holding a dedicated free flight server for DCS_World.
As there is no specific mission anyone can join the server anytime they wish, Not so awkward to approach MP experience.
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@Red:
I know some guys who aren’t pilot but who know better about airplane than some pilots
You sir won the Darwin award today. lmao. Sir, your answer denotes an absolute ignorance of the ‘‘Real World’’ aviation :rofl:
So you are saying that a professionally formed pilot, with access to real world flying material (which is at least private if you are a flying with civies or confidential at most or secret if you are flying with the Air Forces) knows less than a ‘‘virtual video game player’’ (or simmer) who is having access to public limited documentation on internet ? :rofl:
So all the theory tests, lessons given by CFIs, Fliight tests given by accreditated examiners, Type Ratings Courses, and real flying hours are bullshit… So i just need to look for disclosed and old documentation on the internet (with unverified sources and unhomologated by the local aviation authority) and pretend i’m flying a real aircraft besides my screen to obtain a level of knowledge superior of a real pilot ? Wow. You should definitely make a one man show in Flying schools, Testing and evaluation squadrons in Airforces ! I’m sure you’ll had the standing ovation you deserve :rofl::rofl::rofl:
You are an awesome being Sir, thanks for the good laugh i had this morning. You are absolutely fantastic. Keep dreaming, and dreaming big ! … n’importe quoi…Btw if you are moderator, feel free to censor/delete my message if i offended you with a good dose of reality, it’s ok if you are butthurt…
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You sir won the Darwin award today. lmao. Sir, your answer denotes an absolute ignorance of the ‘‘Real World’’ aviation :rofl:
So you are saying that a professionally formed pilot, with access to real world flying material (which is at least private if you are a flying with civies or confidential at most or secret if you are flying with the Air Forces) knows less than a ‘‘virtual video game player’’ (or simmer) who is having access to public limited documentation on internet ? :rofl:
So all the theory tests, lessons given by CFIs, Fliight tests given by accreditated examiners, Type Ratings Courses, and real flying hours are bullshit… So i just need to look for disclosed and old documentation on the internet (with unverified sources and unhomologated by the local aviation authority) and pretend i’m flying a real aircraft besides my screen to obtain a level of knowledge superior of a real pilot ? Wow. You should definitely make a one man show in Flying schools, Testing and evaluation squadrons in Airforces ! I’m sure you’ll had the standing ovation you deserve :rofl::rofl::rofl:
You are an awesome being Sir, thanks for the good laugh i had this morning. You are absolutely fantastic. Keep dreaming, and dreaming big ! … n’importe quoi…Btw if you are moderator, feel free to censor/delete my message if i offended you with a good dose of reality, it’s ok if you are butthurt…
Wtf? Nope that’s not what he said at all. Where did he say that some ‘VPs’ know more than real world pilots. He said non pilots. So obviously aeronautical engineers are gong to know more about the physics of flight than a pilot. GE engineers and designers are going to know FAR more about the viper than the pilots themselves.
You seem to have taken offence to one sentence and transformed what red dog has said…
What do I know, I’m drunk in a Dutch bar…
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You sir won the Darwin award today. lmao. Sir, your answer denotes an absolute ignorance of the ‘‘Real World’’ aviation :rofl:
So you are saying that a professionally formed pilot, with access to real world flying material (which is at least private if you are a flying with civies or confidential at most or secret if you are flying with the Air Forces) knows less than a ‘‘virtual video game player’’ (or simmer) who is having access to public limited documentation on internet ? :rofl:
So all the theory tests, lessons given by CFIs, Fliight tests given by accreditated examiners, Type Ratings Courses, and real flying hours are bullshit… So i just need to look for disclosed and old documentation on the internet (with unverified sources and unhomologated by the local aviation authority) and pretend i’m flying a real aircraft besides my screen to obtain a level of knowledge superior of a real pilot ? Wow. You should definitely make a one man show in Flying schools, Testing and evaluation squadrons in Airforces ! I’m sure you’ll had the standing ovation you deserve :rofl::rofl::rofl:
You are an awesome being Sir, thanks for the good laugh i had this morning. You are absolutely fantastic. Keep dreaming, and dreaming big ! … n’importe quoi…Btw if you are moderator, feel free to censor/delete my message if i offended you with a good dose of reality, it’s ok if you are butthurt…
Those “some guys” could very well be aerospace engineers who “know more about planes than some pilots”.
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He actually is a real life pilot.
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Theory can never beat Practical application… Sorry, but engineers know how to engineer an aircraft, pilots knows how to fly an aicraft. that’s it. And Simmers can not beat a real world pilot, in any sort of theoritical or pratical knowledge, in any way of sort in aviation. It’s like making a statement telling that Call of Duty keyboard warriors can enlist at any time in the Navy Seals and can beat them at the range… come on…:rofl: