Action Camera on a separate client
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Hey all online experts, I’m trying to find a way to run something like the title says, with an additionnal computer connected to a host, that could constantly remain on Action Camera for instance, for aesthetic video shooting purposes, but still while in actual TE or campaign mission. Of course, I wouldn’t take care of this other computer inflight, and let it do its 8 seconds sequences alone.
I tried to to do it from a cold aircraft, but it has to be in range of the human package to “action camera” it. Combat autopilot from an airborne, committed aircraft will disrupt its activity.
If there is a reproductible way to settle 2 clients on the same seat (it accidentally happened to someone but I can’t find it again here), that would definitely do the trick since it would remain in my bubble, but?…
Any ideas?
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Use eyefly. Needs a switch on the shortcut: -ef
While in game go to external view and activate it. Fly with the mouse. Set mouse sensitivity to your likes.
Sorry cant recall key combination to activate it in game, must be in the manual.Another way is set auto pilot on the other plane and use favorite ext. view.
It would be nice if eyefly could snap - follow your plane when u press a keyb key… but not the case now.sent from my mi5 using Tapatalk
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Go to external view and activate with ctrl-i as far as I can remember…
Greetings
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Arty, NIL, I assumed eyefly was something that was to be actively taken care of while in flight, which I couldn’t, but I suppose I’m wrong since you suggest it.
Arty, as you read I can’t use autopilot on any plane that would be in the package, and there’s nothing I see to go round that problem (like a ghost plane that wouldn’t alter the 3D world around it, like attracting fighters). Or it is eyefly maybe?
Thanks for this proposal, I will test it tomorrow. Unless my first sentence actually remind you that I can’t use eyefly in the setup I describe.
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Does the regular ACMI provide all the video angles? If you are trying to do composite video editing, I assume you have decent software for the task. If you run screen capture during the sortie for all of your in-pit needs, then start a screen capture for the entire playback of the ACMI in whatever view you want it in (Or multiple views for that matter) it would be trivial to line up the timing in decent video editing software.
I haven’t used ACMI in quite some time, so I can’t remember if you can turn off all the labels and extraneous stuff. Assuming you can, you would just need to crop the ACMI interface and resize the video stream to the desired output, which again is pretty easy in most editing software. Added bonus of having the ability to focus on other aircraft, weapons, or targets from ACMI to inject into said video. I don’t recall if the “Action Cam” is an option in ACMI, but I know free mode is–so worst case scenario it just takes a lot of tedium on your part to get exactly what you’re looking for. But that’s the world of finesse and fine tuned video editing.
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Does the regular ACMI provide all the video angles? If you are trying to do composite video editing, I assume you have decent software for the task. If you run screen capture during the sortie for all of your in-pit needs, then start a screen capture for the entire playback of the ACMI in whatever view you want it in (Or multiple views for that matter) it would be trivial to line up the timing in decent video editing software.
I haven’t used ACMI in quite some time, so I can’t remember if you can turn off all the labels and extraneous stuff. Assuming you can, you would just need to crop the ACMI interface and resize the video stream to the desired output, which again is pretty easy in most editing software. Added bonus of having the ability to focus on other aircraft, weapons, or targets from ACMI to inject into said video. I don’t recall if the “Action Cam” is an option in ACMI, but I know free mode is–so worst case scenario it just takes a lot of tedium on your part to get exactly what you’re looking for. But that’s the world of finesse and fine tuned video editing.
Are you telling me you can make Tacview look like Falcon 4 BMS? Because apart from its great tactical interest, Tacview offers strictly no aesthetic point.
EDIT: sorry got it, ACMI viewer in BMS. Never opened it. I’ll have a look. Who knows? But I doubt it offers the level I’m looking for.
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With ACMI the level in many case is identical to 3d flight.
The issue is that the resolution will have to be slightly different.
So or from capture cut out the acmi UI or if you go full screen afterwards you must cut out the UI and resize the video. -
With ACMI the level in many case is identical to 3d flight.
The issue is that the resolution will have to be slightly different.
So or from capture cut out the acmi UI or if you go full screen afterwards you must cut out the UI and resize the video.… and I would have to manually select the views, which is a lot more work than expected, and not compatible with the extensive use I’d imagine. Other than that, it was a good idea, less beautiful because of resolution, easy to cut, it just lacks an Action Camera setting. An external ACMI viewer maybe, of the same quality, with this camera?
I made an experimental video to illustrate the point of this idea a bit better. I rewrite its description here. More ideas welcome, obviously. Thanks for your interest so far.
Plugged 2 clients on my host.
Used 1st for usual simming
Used 2nd for cold aicraft nearby, battery lit, tuned on UHF15 (for radio comm effect purpose), Action Camera on
Used my 1st client as usual to play my TE.
During video editing: used cockpit view of 1st when 2nd’s Action Camera focused on the cold aircraft, and used Action Camera almost all the time otherwise.Now I’d like to find a way to Action Camera a package on TE or Campaign Mission, even while it’s getting far from 2nd client’s cold aircraft…
(Refuel is quick because lots of fuel from start, dedicated TE for test)
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If video editing was easy and not labor intensive everyone would do it… Ok sarcasm aside–I did mention it would be labor intensive to try the ACMI method. Some questions though:
How powerful is the rig you are using? You can always play the game in a higher resolution than your desired end result video (I’m guessing you want a 1080 video?) and down-convert everything to the desired resolution using the video editing software. This, combined with a little scaling, can account for the missing UI areas of the video captured from ACMI. For that matter, ACMI is just data being fed into the 3D, so I THINK you could play at one resolution and then up the resolution for the ACMI playback and it would render the ACMI in the higher resolution. I have never tested that, but it seems logical in my mind.
What is the TRUE desired end result from the action cam? With a little work, and some free macro software, you can recreate it in the ACMI playback, or more precisely, you can create your own specific “views” with camera rotation and movement specifically how you want it, and not be explicitly tied to the choices the action cam makes. As I said before, good video editing takes time, patience, and lots of experimenting. But the end result in putting forth the effort is the difference in a home video vs a blockbuster…
What is the desired end result for the video? Combat footage? AR like this one? Random aesthetics? If you go outside the box a bit you might very well be able to get what you are looking for using your method, but hard to advise without a little more info. You could put the tanker on the other PC instead of a cold aircraft, or an enemy plane with combat ap enabled for combat footage. Lots of options depending on the desired outcome.
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If video editing was easy and not labor intensive everyone would do it… Ok sarcasm aside–I did mention it would be labor intensive to try the ACMI method. Some questions though:
How powerful is the rig you are using? You can always play the game in a higher resolution than your desired end result video (I’m guessing you want a 1080 video?) and down-convert everything to the desired resolution using the video editing software. This, combined with a little scaling, can account for the missing UI areas of the video captured from ACMI. For that matter, ACMI is just data being fed into the 3D, so I THINK you could play at one resolution and then up the resolution for the ACMI playback and it would render the ACMI in the higher resolution. I have never tested that, but it seems logical in my mind.
What is the TRUE desired end result from the action cam? With a little work, and some free macro software, you can recreate it in the ACMI playback, or more precisely, you can create your own specific “views” with camera rotation and movement specifically how you want it, and not be explicitly tied to the choices the action cam makes. As I said before, good video editing takes time, patience, and lots of experimenting. But the end result in putting forth the effort is the difference in a home video vs a blockbuster…
What is the desired end result for the video? Combat footage? AR like this one? Random aesthetics? If you go outside the box a bit you might very well be able to get what you are looking for using your method, but hard to advise without a little more info. You could put the tanker on the other PC instead of a cold aircraft, or an enemy plane with combat ap enabled for combat footage. Lots of options depending on the desired outcome.
If there was an easy answer to my question Mortesil, I’m certain you would have already given it.
Shorts reminders/answers to yours:
ACMI resolution not a problem, for ACMI not usable yet
Skill in programming to tweak ACMI results = non-existing
Time and will to develop this skill = null at the moment.
Desire to make a blockbuster without any effort = yours, interest in making one = null
Level of my initial question = obviously hard, sarcasm aside -
U have multiple cameras in acmi. Have ai close to your aircraft or not. U can scale from within acmi viewer the size of aircraft.
Resolution iirc is same as 3d flight.sent from my mi5 using Tapatalk
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U have multiple cameras in acmi. Have ai close to your aircraft or not. U can scale from within acmi viewer the size of aircraft.
Resolution iirc is same as 3d flight.sent from my mi5 using Tapatalk
Same as the recorded flight, or same as the settings for 3D flight? I would think if you do a flight at one setting, then change your resolution in settings before you bring up the ACMI, it will render with the current 3D settings, regardless of how it was captured. I believe the ACMI is just position and object data that the 3D engine ingests and produces, so it should always render with the current settings.
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Yes acmi is just data. It replays those data at the resolution u set.
U can chose every object as center and as target all other objects. Depending on view selections u make from within acmi ui.sent from my mi5 using Tapatalk
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Hey again!
I’m doing some progress on these questions, but for now I still need to experiment.
I’m looking for something in particular: I believe there is a file where I can tweak some settings about external views. I can’t find it, does this or these file(s) exist(s)?
Thanks. Will keep you updated if things get interesting - but I suppose I’ll need that or these file(s).
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Have u looked @ my hotlist?
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Have u looked @ my hotlist?
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No, so, I just did. I only found how to edit TopGun views, you probably don’t think of that, what else did you have in mind? It is still the Action Camera I’m trying to tweak.
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Yeap top gun. I cant recall any post or reference for other cams edit.
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