New User. Can't get CH Combatstick 568 USB working. Help!!
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I apologize in advance if I am missing something obvious.
I installed BMS 4.33 U2. All was well.
I installed CH Control Manager 4.55 and calibrated the Combatstick.
All buttons worked and throttle wheel worked.My CH Combatstick 568 USB was recognized in controllers in BMS 4.33 U2.
I setup throttle in Advanced.I loaded the Full Keyboard map in the game.
Was not sure how to program the buttons in the game, but figured that out I think by clicking on a key command and then the button.
All of my chosen commands appeared to be assigned OK in the game Controller section.
I then click Apply and then OK.I go into the game and the only thing that works is steering and the throttle wheel. None of the button assignments work.
Using the keyboard to do commands does work.Ok, so I did some more reading and went back into CH Control Manager and loaded a Falcon 4 map and downloaded it and then put the CH Control Manger into Map mode.
Went back into game.
The device now showed up as CH Control Manger Device 1 (rather than CH Combatstick 568 USB) in the Controllers section in the game.
Everything seemed to be working fine. Hit Apply and then OK.Still no response to the key assignments on buttons in gameplay.
Not sure what I am missing here.
Any help appreciated.
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Here is maybe another really stupid question…… Do I even need to install CH Control Manager?
The Combatstick is recognized in the BMS 4.33 U2 Controllers without installing it.
Can it be programmed totally within the game?? -
I have been informed over at CH Hangar that I am supposed to use Direct Mode in CM.
Did that. Still no luck except for some reason can assign Drop Chaffe to a button.
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HI,
THE HOTAS MARKET BLOWS. no one responded to you because it is one of those things we all ignore yet are subject to. Hopefully you figured something out sir, CH is outdated in belongs in doc browns delorian in 80’s movies of the future, not the actual future…it’s 2017.
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HI,
THE HOTAS MARKET BLOWS. no one responded to you because it is one of those things we all ignore yet are subject to. Hopefully you figured something out sir, CH is outdated in belongs in doc browns delorian in 80’s movies of the future, not the actual future…it’s 2017.
CH Combat/Fighter Sticks and Pro Throttle are current USB devices and are still being sold today. Now I don’t have any CH products myself so I’m unable to provide any direct help. But saying that CH is outdated is simply not true. I would have probably bought a CH USB-HOTAS if it hadn’t been for that Pro Throttle. If CH was smart, the would release a true F-16 TQS modelled throttle. If they combine it with the Combat Stick for a reasonable price, they would probably make quite a dent in the flight sim market as a far more cost effective Warthog alternative. (Also considering that TM dropped the ball by not offering a TQS throttle along with the Warthog Stick, as Cougar Throttles with TUSBA are now a very sought after item for a lot of WH owners).
As far as the original topic starter goes - I think you have 2 choices. Either use your CH software to program the BMS 4.33 keystrokes onto your stick so that your buttons will provide the keyboard keystrokes for things like TMS/DMS/CMS up/down/left/right etc. Or ensure that no profile is loaded and directly go into BMS and link each required function with the DirectX buttons on your stick, assuming that Windows 7/8/10 sees your CH Combatstick (and Pro Throttle?) as two separate USB HID Gameport controllers with 32 buttons each.
I’m still flying BMS 4.33.2 with a gameport FLCS + TQS from 1996 … and that works just fine in BMS. Albeit under XP but still, it works. I’ll start working on an USB conversion soon but the notion that CH is no longer a viable option for BMS today is just not true at all.
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I respectfully disagree, however I hear your well made points. Sure, it could be- just like you can land with a dead stick.
When I “simulate” flying, I like to have the fidelity, and the greased gimbals, to effectively simulate flying an aircraft, not in a serial port. CH is worth about 40 american, but I understand their appeal. Which is why I keep one as a back up- In case of nuclear war.
I have heavily modified one, I have approached an expert, expert, in converting one into a HALL. needless to say, alone, the trigger assembly should turn anyone off a budget of more than 40 american. Keep in mind new from santa clara or wherever, they box them at 119.99, amazon sells them for 115.99. THAT, sir, is downright criminal, and dependent upon export sales, which is more or less considerable when getting into again ethics, and the considerations of where their Mexican assembly is located. But we won’t get into business ethics, as the existential ones may in fact be lost in translation, if the practical consumer reaction to selling an 8 bit dry gimbal in the year 2017 is so inflammatory to your current disposition. I also know that the primary source of their profit is from south american sales.
So to recap, we have an outdated, outsourced, exported product, being sold in the first world market at an incredible markup, to places like canada and anywhere beholden to the GBP this includes import tariffs- this item is by definition of what it is ( a dry gimbal operated aircraft control input ((DEFECTIVE AS PER OSHA STANDARDS)defective to it’s needs, with outdated fidelity that does not have enough play to effectively control a tactical aircraft. They backstop these inequities by selling to a 2nd world market that is in all intents and purposes 10 years behind the first (effectively leveling their marketability in the locale niche) The warranty sticker over the northwestern screw hole stating “void if broken” is the final slap to the consumer, as this is not only completely despicable in an ethical regard considering one will inevitably need to perform maintenance on a gimbals, particularly a dry plastic one, as well as untenable in consumer court, as precedence time after time states " a manufacturers warranty cannot be void by a customer performing practical maintenance or simply inspecting the inner workings of a device for defects or functions". There is no trademark that prevents me from looking at what is considered a trade secret if I purchased it and own it by rites of possession, as per common law dating back to the Carolingian dynasty…
with all due respect. So I maintain my prior position.
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You are disagreeing with CH because they do not manufacture their items in the USA and you disagree with CH for voiding your warranty if you tamper with their products?
Doesn’t that apply to ALL HOTAS manufacturers? Thrustmaster, Logitech, MadCatz/Saitek (Now Logitech as well), etc?
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No, that’s not what I said at all, and frankly if that’s what you’ve deduced from my eloquently made points I’d say we are done here.
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No, that’s not what I said at all, and frankly if that’s what you’ve deduced from my eloquently made points I’d say we are done here.
So what would be a suitable product for the year of 2017 then?
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Here you go https://virpil.com/en/filtered/sticks/
Makes warthog plastick wanna be gimbal look like crap.
Or here:
https://flightsimcontrols.com/store/
Only warthog grip is good (IMHO) so if you like F-16 style grip get good gimbal/base and use warthog grip with it.
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Lkdog.
It’s already half a year old post so I don’t know if you are still looking for a solution but could you upload your key file and DeviceDefault.txt? If they are just okay then the problem should be that your stick is not outputing DX signal properly. You can check if your joysticks output are working collectly by following Method2 on the URL.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/831361/how-to-troubleshoot-game-controllers-in-microsoft-games -
I tend to not answer questions asked dis-earnestly.
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Lkdog: When you are on the controller screen in setup for the ui make sure that it doesn’t say keyboard for control mode. Then click advanced and make sure that your joystick is controlling pitch, roll and since you have a z it also does the throttle-unless you have a throttle device. Yes you want to have the control manager installed if you plan on getting another ch product or you learn to write code for the controller.
I have the CH FIGHTERSTICK USB, there are only two buttons on it that are missing. They didnt put in a 2 stage trigger, and there is no paddle switch. The combat stick has a few buttons less than the fighterstick. I throw mine into mapped mode and use a few buttons not how they were designed in the sim, until I get a throttle control I have the air brake and radar cursors mapped on the stick too, just change the mode and I have the correct stick assignment.
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Hardware config in BMS it’s a little tricky in a first place.
No, that’s not what I said at all, and frankly if that’s what you’ve deduced from my eloquently made points I’d say we are done here.
You are done here long ago pal.
Your statement looks dishonest and it is contradictory.