Livrot Mic Command - Preview Release
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Hi Livrot,
Here is what I did this night :Open the crash_course_profile_V03. lmc as indicated in your post #396 to initialize the settings.
Changed in Settings/microphone from toggle to PTT.
Changed in settings/Hotkeys {F8}m to {Pause} as recommanded in your last post
Closed the settings window
Tried to PTT mode by Maintening Pause key down 2 times, LMC Window is the active one. PTT goes from start to stop with just Pause pressed and as you will see in the log file, listening is at the end On , but I don’t press pause key …I Tried With an other application active than LMC : nothing happen ! and nothing inthe Log windows of course.
here is the log file
PTT isn’t working at all with me and It is one of the most important fonctionality I need.Torvil,
Perhaps you should think about 2 settings levels for LMC user as the last version of LMC is very powerfull, but for sure has too much power for a simulator use as BMS, ARMA or others…the first one, in expert settings, would be the last version (2017)
the second one, normal settings, would be more simple and accessible to be used as a compagnion for a game (the 2015 version I mentionned had enough fonctionalities to be used as expected in a simulator. I really enjoyed this stage of development !)I think that nobody here would like to read hours and test more hours a very very powerfull software with a lot of fonctionalities only for games. Your Soft is very complex and need a lot of energy to make it running in addition of BMS, which is itself very complex too. Fortunatly, TARGET is much friendly use, otherwise I think my brain will explode …
Sorry for theses hard words, as you know I really love your job, I am very interested in making LMC running, but since I decided to fly again BMS I have Spend all my time trying to have a voice control software working with BMS without any success.
It is really very very frustating !
With all my consideration and my best regardsBenoit “Windblow”
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The pause key was no good idea, sorry.
I did a quick test with the ‘<’ key and it works.
BUT you have to turn ‘key repeat’ off in the ‘Advanced & Global Hotkey Settings’ of LMC. (concerns only LMC hotkey recognition not the system)Works in notepad at least.
I hope this fixes it for you (and everyone else having the same issue).Your ideas and suggestions are always welcome Wingedsky!
cheers,
Torvil -
I confirm that PTT is working nice with ‘<’ key and repeat off.
BUT if i try with NUMLOCK (unused key in BMS), PTT is activated only when LMC is tha active program.
As I try to run PTT with notepad active, nothing hapened, except the “Key repeat events have been filtered out” on the OSD -
Noted. I look into this when I have some time.
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Hi Torvil,
Here are som more feedback.
I tested some examples as describe in LMC manual and :
*Artificial Speech Feedback p44 :
Error : Desired voice not available
green led flashing until clicking ok on error window*Sound File Playback : in macro event builder and course, confusion between double2, double3, int2 and int3…
*Open / Run File p46 : event #1 step3. ‘param 1 data type’ select ‘bool’
doesnt exists in macro event builder (same in evnt#6 and #8 above)Some others strange behaviour :
- Maybe the lmc-temp_folder should be deleted even iwhen an error occured!
-Errorlog doesn’t show all crashes. LMC crashed at least 2 times as i tried to resize le editor windows, and nothing writen in the Error log file
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It is impossible to load directly a working and saved profile. The only way to load a profile I saved is to open first LMC then open the profile without settings. It is very anoying !
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I was used to use 2 profiles when running BMS, 1 for UHF, the other for VHF, with 2 LMC program running. I program my Warthog with target with 2 events on each UHF and VHF button : 1 is DX and the second event is the hotkey for emulating PTT in LMC. Today, I can run BMS (in window or fullscreen mode, no matter) and talk with 1 profile, the Hotkey used is ‘'.
As ‘Verr Num’ is not working with LMC as PTT hotkey, I would like to make the 'CTRL’ hotkey as my second PTT. In LL-eater HK, I can’t make it running with Target. Any advice?
As soon as I will make my 2 pofiles running I will post them here. All placeholders and synonyms are working fine, I had to erase all responses from my 2015 profile.
As recommanded in the manual if using a CRTL key, I tried to make a LL HK with down and up events. But once I register {CTRL}* when I try to edit it, I can’t hit the ‘eat key up event’ … ?
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thanks a lot!
did you try and select another voice in settings/sounds/command feedback already?
the profiles I saved like the crash course profile could be loaded directly by clicking on them (when lmc is not running - do you mean with lmc being started already?)
if the key release events have not been recorded ‘eat key up’ can not be selected for that hotkey. (if you could please tell me which page of the manual recommends this for LL hotkeys using ctrl, I would like to take a look at that part)
I will look into all this as soon as possible.
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Hi Livrot
here is some more feedback.
It seems that, sometimes, with no logical behaviour, LMC doens’t play the macro, even if the LOG indicates that it does (and after speech recognition feedback indication of course).
It applies not only in game but with NotePad too.
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Hi.
One more question. I made a file combining BMS and DCS. I want to integrate the frame per second counter in DCS but can’t find the right key in Livrot from the dropdown list. When I set left control with break key (Pause) it doesn’t work. Using the event monitor of TARGET, the right key is named control-break. I didn’t found such a key in the dropdown list.
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Hi Foxmike,
when you have the lmc editor window open, click on the red ball icon showing a ‘K’ and press CRTL + BRK.
The BRK or PAUSE key is the second key to the right of the print (screenshot) key.
Then click on the red square (stop) icon.
Now click on the blue ‘+’ icon and the recorded key presses are added as events into a new/fresh created command.
All that is left to do is to open that command and give it a phrase.Regards,
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Heads Up!
Voice Attack Profiles can be loaded into LMC (actual version).
Simply rename the .vap file into a .xml file and load it from LMC.I just checked it using this one:
VAC profiles can be loaded into LMC, too.
(DJ’s VAC profile for French keyboard) https://www.benchmarksims.org/forum/showthread.php?8323-DeeJay-s-Voice-Activaded-Commands-(VAC)-Profiles&p=102541&viewfull=1#post102541… and Keyspeech profiles, also.
Do not forget to save the profile afterwards to complete the conversion.
LMC licenses can be had for free here, PM or post your username (from livrot.com).
Regards,
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Hi Foxmike,
when you have the lmc editor window open, click on the red ball icon showing a ‘K’ and press CRTL + BRK.
The BRK or PAUSE key is the second key to the right of the print (screenshot) key.
Then click on the red square (stop) icon.
Now click on the blue ‘+’ icon and the recorded key presses are added as events into a new/fresh created command.
All that is left to do is to open that command and give it a phrase.Regards,
TorvilHi.
I tried that several times but that doesnt work. I got:
Temporary macro is empty. No command created.
This report shows every time even when other keys are pressed, although my keyboard works fine and in preferences temp macros are allowed. So why is the recording not working? Any other forgotten settings?
Thanks for helpEdit: mouse temp macro recording works well, but the keyboard shows no reaction when recording
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Hi.
I tried that several times but that doesnt work. I got:
Temporary macro is empty. No command created.
This report shows every time even when other keys are pressed, although my keyboard works fine and in preferences temp macros are allowed. So why is the recording not working? Any other forgotten settings?
Thanks for helpEdit: mouse temp macro recording works well, but the keyboard shows no reaction when recording
LMC is still ‘funny’ in some regards ……
are you using a laptop?
then try clicking on an opened notepad window just before pressing the key combination.hope this helps.
Regards,
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foxmike, I just checked the drop down list the BRK (break) key is called {Pause} in there.
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foxmike, I just checked the drop down list the BRK (break) key is called {Pause} in there.
please try that one, too.Hi.
Now I got it working, it was indeed the keyboard, a KeySonic with touchpad. Using a LogiLink keyboard the recording is done correctly. The right key in the drop down list is named CANCEL, but of course it is the BREAK or PAUSE key on the keyboard.
Thanks for support, I am lucky now. -
Hi.
Another problem just after updating to the actual LMC and Windows 10 updates . LMC now always forgets my mic button on my Warthog throttle (running without Target). When I start LMC the first time, there are several warnings about lost USB devices and now missing LLHotkeys. I never changed the USB ports of my HOTAS. I plug the Warthog off an on, then it is recognized and I can record the Dx2 button as Mic. I safe settings and close LMC. I restart LMC and I got another warning that an USB Device change occurred, what in fact never happened. Nothing helps, I even edited the Mic settings not to be bound to only one device. I have to record my Warthog button after every restart of LMC, and after restart or reboot of the PC I even must unplug plug my Warthog first. Whats wrong after the update?
Regards
Foxmike -
Sorry, the LMC hotkey system got rewritten and these bugs surfaced with the rewrite.
I will investigate this.What do you mean by ‘you save settings and close LMC’ - did you save the profile again, too?
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Yes, I saved profile and as standard auto load profile with settings, but of course I have always a backup for the case it gets damaged.
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I tried to go back to version 160807, but it seems to conflict with any last Windows updates. I even turned firewall and anti virus off, but LMC does’t run, it always hast to be closed by Windows 10 because it STOPPED WOKING. This was, by the way, the reason I tried the newes LMC version, because the old version didn’t work anymore since a few days exactly after the last Windows updates. I can install 16807, click the license agreement and when I press CONTINUE LMC stops working.
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to use older lmc versions with win10 try this:
open the lmc folder (from the menu/file/open lmc folder)
right click on the 4.5 MB LMC main file and select properties
click on the compatibility tab
check ‘run this program in compatibility mode for’
and select ‘windows 7’ from the listI hope it helps until an update is ready.