An android/IOS tablet MFD extractor that just works!
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In case nobody else has posted about this. I have found it to be the best solution for me, Works out of the box for IOS and Android. Very easy setup, lightweight, low latency and responsive, good connectivity. For me it just works! Does not require any special mappings, just got to have all the buttons mapped to keys/key combinations. I guess it interrogates BMS to find the current mappings for those call backs, so expect it to work as long at the call back names don’t change.
Falcon BMS Control | falcon-bms-control (kungfoo.github.io)
Here it is in use….
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Another solution where you are a bit more free cause you can build your own virtual cockpit and works on Android and IOS as well is by using Helios in combination with either spacedesk or duet Display.
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that looks like a very cool & simple solution, thanks for sharing.
What would finally draw me away from Komurcu’s android app is an AP and countermeasures panel. Kormurcu’s ICP is the best I’ve seen (not completely functional any more due to some recent BMS changes) but I just love having all those flip switches, pushbuttons, the RWR and the AP and CM panels on a single 10" landscape tablet.
Cheers, Uwe
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And here’s the thread of the dev to his app here on the forum
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Thanks for the endorsement. I hope I can find the time to release the next version of the app soon and maybe even add an AP panel screen to it. I have been very busy real-life wise recently so I haven’t had too much time to sink into this, but the next version is coming. 3 to 4 weeks, as they say.
Also thanks for the great demo video, I love it.
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…… and maybe even add an AP panel screen to it. …
Hi Kungfoo,
Again, many thanks for this app.I have tried this on 3 different tablets and works on them all, in all orientations. The beauty of this app over others is it is just focused on a couple of things, ICP and MFD’s, and it does those very well in all orientations and screen sizes. This also keeps latency and complications, errors to a minimum. The more callbacks referenced, the lower the latency. What makes this the ‘killer’ app for MFD’s is the response on the MFD images and input. Please don’t compromise this for richer functionality.
If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it, my 0.02$,
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I think (but kungfoo is the authority here) that pages that are not visible are in an idle state and not taking up bandwidth. First when you swipe and activate them do they require bandwidth. That is usually the case for at least Android apps
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I use two tablets - one for the ICP page and one for MFDs. Saves switching! I have them mounted on a mini switch panel that fits underneath my monitor.
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Though actually in this pic, it’s not showing kungfoo’s app for the ICP
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Much to my disappointment.
Jokes aside, I want to improve the ICP page in the next version. -
Hi Kungfoo,
Again, many thanks for this app.I have tried this on 3 different tablets and works on them all, in all orientations. The beauty of this app over others is it is just focused on a couple of things, ICP and MFD’s, and it does those very well in all orientations and screen sizes. This also keeps latency and complications, errors to a minimum. The more callbacks referenced, the lower the latency. What makes this the ‘killer’ app for MFD’s is the response on the MFD images and input. Please don’t compromise this for richer functionality.
If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it, my 0.02$,
That’s really good to hear! It actually took me some time to a) figure out how to do it for both iOS and android b) with minimal latency for the (MFD) screen updates.
On the concerns about bandwidth and callback latency:
- Screens/Pages that are not visible do not take up any bandwidth.
- Callbacks are tiny messages sent to the server on an alternate ‘channel’, so those should not be affected by the number of screens displayed.
- More callbacks that tie into the sim on the other end, should not affect latency at all. Those should always be near-realtime.
- Near-realtime updates of cockpit switch states as the CMS program switch is something I still have to think about, but if I get it right, those will also not use any significant bandwidth.
I will try to find a good layout to also render the RWR and bezels and then later potentially add more buttons with switch state sync. The next version will also scale the MFDs to be as big as they can be without messing with their aspect ratio.
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It would be awesome to be able to choose where the RWR goes - personally I would want to see it at the same time as the MFDs - (specifically FCR and RWR together).
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I’d love to see this new app reproduce komurcu’s std ICP view… it’s the most comprehensive I’ve found so far, I’ll see if I can find a screenshot somewhere.
Cheers, Uwe
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……On the concerns about bandwidth and callback latency:…
Sounds like you have your finger on the pulse of whats important for the extraction. Looking forward to the updates.
By the way, someone has commented on youtube, that the APK works also with 5th gen Kindle Fire ! Amazing job Kungfoo.
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I’d love to see this new app reproduce komurcu’s std ICP view… it’s the most comprehensive I’ve found so far, I’ll see if I can find a screenshot somewhere.
Cheers, Uwe
That would be icp/ded, rwr and cms/ap/music panel?
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Hi everyone, due to a long stint abroad and other real life obligations (like moving to a new place) I have not had that much free time to dedicate to Falcon BMS Control, as I’ve wanted. But: Good news, Apple is kind of forcing my hand since the current app is not built for iOS 15, so I’ll release a new version tonight/tomorrow.
That version has pretty ‘abstract’ bezels, but for now I’ll focus on adding more core functionality rather than more eye candy. It also has a working RWR display and quite a bunch of improvements under the hood.You will find that version on the respective app stores and the github page soon. Oh, and there will be a Windows client as well, for people who own a Surface or another touchscreen laptop/tablet of sorts and want to run it there.
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Fish: Would you be opposed to me using your video on the github page? It is much better than any video I ever got.
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@kungfoo Only seeing this now Kungfoo. Absolutely no problem for you to use my video. Also Many thanks for the new update Looks absolutely great. Really like the new bezel look of the MFD’s. Touch points much easier to find, and the RWR along side the ICP is great use of available space. Good job.
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@fish44 Cool, I’ll link it on the home page then.
Up next: properly detect notch-phones and render in the safe area…
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Thank you Kungfoo for the app opportunity and Fish for the video demonstration.
The desk top MFD solution appeals to me. I’ve no experience with a tablet and have never shopped for one. I do use a Kindl so I suppose that’s somewhat similar. I’m contemplating getting a tablet to try your solution. Maybe I’ll use it to read BMS manuals when on the go. Other than that, I haven’t identified a need.
Which Android unit would you recommend for compatibility with your app and optimum performance? I examined these.
Samsung Galaxy Tab A7 10.4 Wi-Fi 32GB Android about $230
Fire HD 10 tablet, 10.1", 1080p Full HD, 32 GB about $150GC