Was looking at a F35 cockpit
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A cockpit might be in the works…
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You are teasing us Raptor… Keep it up…
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I read the part about “F35 has internal cannon, which F16 certainly does not have”
Is "internal cannon a separate type? Because, we all know there is a cannon inside F16, this must be just terminology I don’t know.
No……Just another lazy half arsed aviation article!
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No……Just another lazy half arsed aviation article!
Actually, the USAF version of the F-35 is the only variant that has an internal cannon - the USMC and USN versions have an external gun pod…and while the USMC may have actually bought gun pods, I haven’t read or heard anything of the USN doing so. So the article is accurate…to it’s point.
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I like that Gripen pit…. a lot!
But on that f35 article it was saying there is no (internal)cannon in F16, in one of the comparisons.
I knew the B version of f35 had no gun , but the other Navy version was news to me, what caught me by surprise though was the F16 statement.
I thought it was some terms I am not familiar with. Because why even write a comparison article if you don’t know if the F16 has a cannon or not?
Also may be a bad translation , or just piffle for some reason.
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Actually, the USAF version of the F-35 is the only variant that has an internal cannon - the USMC and USN versions have an external gun pod…and while the USMC may have actually bought gun pods, I haven’t read or heard anything of the USN doing so. So the article is accurate…to it’s point.
The article is not correct……here is the (very poor) text he is referring to:
How does the F-35A compare to the F-16? Well, not only does the F-35A come with an internal cannon which the F-16 certainly does not have, but also, the F-35A will be stealthier and include more fuel efficiency than the F-16. The F-35A also ranks high in survivability, especially with the addition of an internal cannon that can be used in difficult situations.
So correct that F-35A has an internal gun but - totally false regarding in service F-16s unless he just happened to be doing all research based on the F-16N or one of the YF-16s because that is as far as gunless F-16s went AFAIK.
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The F-16 didn’t have an internal cannon? There are a heck of a lot more A models than B and C. There were going to be a lot of C’s as well (1200 / 300 / 700?) but the USN cut back.
The -16 and -35 seem very similar: lots of international cooperation, new technology, combined task design, etc. $116M is almost certainly too low for the cost of the B model while hopefully the A gets closer to 80 than 100. And the program cost is 9-16T not including maintenance? I think that’s off by a factor of ten. I’ve heard total program cost
This feels like it was written by an automatic article algorithm.
The A-16 didn’t have a (30mm?) internal cannon and had to be pod-mounted. The pod sucked so there isn’t an F-16 and an A-16 like there is an F-18 and an A-18 (aka F/A-18).
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I was under the impression there was not an F-18 that is separate to the F/A-18. Wiki reckons there was originally going to be an F-18 and an A-18, which were the same hardware but different software, and that during development they combined the two into the same aircraft, which became the F/A-18.
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The article is not correct……here is the (very poor) text he is referring to:
How does the F-35A compare to the F-16? Well, not only does the F-35A come with an internal cannon which the F-16 certainly does not have, but also, the F-35A will be stealthier and include more fuel efficiency than the F-16. The F-35A also ranks high in survivability, especially with the addition of an internal cannon that can be used in difficult situations.
So correct that F-35A has an internal gun but - totally false regarding in service F-16s unless he just happened to be doing all research based on the F-16N or one of the YF-16s because that is as far as gunless F-16s went AFAIK.
…ok. To the OP’s point, then.
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The article is not correct……here is the (very poor) text he is referring to:
How does the F-35A compare to the F-16? Well, not only does the F-35A come with an internal cannon which the F-16 certainly does not have, but also, the F-35A will be stealthier and include more fuel efficiency than the F-16. The F-35A also ranks high in survivability, especially with the addition of an internal cannon that can be used in difficult situations.
So correct that F-35A has an internal gun but - totally false regarding in service F-16s unless he just happened to be doing all research based on the F-16N or one of the YF-16s because that is as far as gunless F-16s went AFAIK.
I haven’t looked at the article but to me, the snippet you’ve quoted reads as though the author has a dog in the race and it ain’t the viper. With no data, these comparisons are speculative at best, I understand the F-35 program has some difficult problems however, the quote reads like a desperate attempt at justification.
Nowt rang wae a bit ay cynicism, like.
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i want to start tinkering with a multi display touch screen MFD array. make it usb 3.0 on external power. seems like in the next ten years this will be not only a want, but a need for high end simming.
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I read the part about “F35 has internal cannon, which F16 certainly does not have”
Is "internal cannon a separate type? Because, we all know there is a cannon inside F16, this must be just terminology I don’t know.
Lots of cool pit work to do , and not enough pit workers.
Only the USAF version of the F-35 has an internally mounted gun/cannon, like the F-16. The USN and USMC variants have an external gun pod which mounts on the centerline station similar to the Hawk/T-45.
Gun and cannon get used interchangeably depending on whom you are talking to and how deep into what they do with armament goes…at some caliber a “gun” is properly referred to as a “cannon”…but I forget just where that point is. There may also be something to do with the way the breach operates too…but in general an aircraft guy may call it a “gun” and an artillery guy (or the maker) may call it a “cannon”.