A question about real F-16 procedures and Falcon BMS
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He does at the end, below the videos, so it is/was a bit confusing what he’s asking.
My bad, I’m not as ‘eagle-eye’d’ as you
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On training or actual mission u set to arm only on ingress, and on egress u set it back to sim or off. It’s on the checklists.
It could be even more strict.
SAFE on ingress, SIM after fence in. ARM once cleared hot (preferably only seconds before weapon release), back to SIM immediately after weapon release, SAFE on fence out. (can’t count the times I’ve messed up perfectly good runs or A-A engagements because I still had SIM set when I reached release parameters :mad: )
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Sorry for confusion guys. What I was asking about is the reason behind the putting the Master ARM to SIM on the ground. I know about the use of Master ARM switch on air. My question is, why you keep the switch on SIM while taxing on the ground?. If you have weapons to program it is OK to put the switch to SIM on the ground but after that(finishing the programming the weapons) why pilot keeps doing it?
There are lots of other videos they do the same thing. It does not matter it is a training or demonstration flight. My observation from the videos is, pilots keep master arm SIM regardless of loaded ordnance or not while on the ground. And I am asking the reason behind this procedure(putting the master ARM to SIM on the ground).
Again, sorry for the confusion and thank you for your answers guys.
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No worries man, don’t loose your time over explaining what your question was, this kind of things keep happening. Many people have their answers more than you have your questions.
I’m sorry I don’t have an answer to your question, which is obviously why I didn’t reply in the first place. Hope I have one for the next question, which you’ll hopefully have.
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They usually do EOR weapon check at the End of Runway area.
it needs to set MATER to SIm to check all weapon sys.
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There just isn’t a reason to set it to off. Sim won’t let you employ anything. So why go off on the ground and then have to go to sim right after getting airborne to do your weapon check? Just put it in sim from the get go. And as for ferry flights etc, just use sim out of habit. Off doesn’t add anything. The only time I would set off is if I had some kind of weapon malfunction like a runaway gun or something. And even then sim would probably accomplish the same thing.
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Thanks for the answers guys. Also, I do not remember where I have read but the position of the Master Switch effect the ejection time of the seat. If Master is ARM or SIM, ejection happens right away after handle pulled(no delay). But if Master ARM is SAFE ejection needs 1 second delay. The reason behind this I believe was preventing unwanted or accidentally ejection. This may sound awkward but I remember something like this. This might be the reason for putting the Master ARM to SIM during takeoff and landing. Correct me if I am wrong please. Again thanks for answers guys.
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There just isn’t a reason to set it to off. Sim won’t let you employ anything. So why go off on the ground and then have to go to sim right after getting airborne to do your weapon check? Just put it in sim from the get go. And as for ferry flights etc, just use sim out of habit. Off doesn’t add anything. The only time I would set off is if I had some kind of weapon malfunction like a runaway gun or something. And even then sim would probably accomplish the same thing.
Mhm, IMHO Tomcat has it. It’s a “SOP thing”.
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Ok then, thanks.
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@mhm:
Thanks for the answers guys. Also, I do not remember where I have read but the position of the Master Switch effect the ejection time of the seat. If Master is ARM or SIM, ejection happens right away after handle pulled(no delay). But if Master ARM is SAFE ejection needs 1 second delay. The reason behind this I believe was preventing unwanted or accidentally ejection. This may sound awkward but I remember something like this. This might be the reason for putting the Master ARM to SIM during takeoff and landing. Correct me if I am wrong please. Again thanks for answers guys.
Master arm has nothing to do with ejection.
The only delay I know of is in a 2 seater that’s configured for a dual ejection (there’s a switch in the rear cockpit) so the front seat delays slightly so the rear seat can go first.
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Thanks for the answer Tomcat84.
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You could use a heat sensor to lock your lead (or any other heat sorce) in sim mode.
I just think it would be easier to find Sim position than hunting for middle of the toggle switch.
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They usually do EOR weapon check at the End of Runway area.
it needs to set MATER to SIm to check all weapon sys.
On the subject of EOR checks - I am sure everyone has their own version BUT is there a RL version or one specifically for BMS based on a RL version that can be shared ?
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On the subject of EOR checks - I am sure everyone has their own version BUT is there a RL version or one specifically for BMS based on a RL version that can be shared ?
For us, we have SOP to do EOR checks in accordance with “F-16 COMBAT AIRCRAFT FUNDAMENTALS - Multi-Command Handbook 11-F16 Vol5.pdf” and Basic-Employment-Manual-F-16C.pdf.
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any chance of getting a copy of your SOP - please.
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Copy paste the PDF name and search it on Google
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