Weapons specialists needed => BLU-109
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According to this https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BLU-109_bomb and this https://web.archive.org/web/20110525133718/http://www.hill.af.mil/library/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=5752 its both
I am not specialist though i think according the situation you can use it like a bomb or as guided bomb so basicly must be a bomb
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Guys stop posting, else all you are going to get is sarcasm. The fact that you ask about a weapon specialist advise on a public forum and then being sarcastic when other people answer is not nice at all.
Really that surprises me. If you want a true weapon specialist input then post your question on a specialised forum.
Your attitude is really surprising.
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I might know a guy that knows a guy. Will ask around and get back asap. :bolt:
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Guys stop posting, else all you are going to get is sarcasm. The fact that you ask about a weapon specialist advise on a public forum and then being sarcastic when other people answer is not nice at all.
Really that surprises me. If you want a true weapon specialist input then post your question on a specialised forum.
Your attitude is really surprising.
Sorry if is sounded like a sarcasm, be sure it wasn’t.
@Canuck:Guys stop posting, else all you are going to get is sarcasm
^This is sarcasm.
The link you have posted has been posted on #1.
I am just trying to save some dev time here by asking for factual answers, not chitchatting endlessly about things we already knows/have (sorry, but I also searched on google during hours before coming here for month) … I know that we have here some ppl working on F-16 or other a/c, so I rather ask for their inputs.
If it is pissing off some ppl here, okay, it will be the last time I ask some help … but do not complain if we are doing everything on our side and then are so called “elitist” or “closed group”.
EDIT: Thank you for your attempt to help anyway. This is not sarcastic, I truly thank you for taking some time to search!
@NIL:
I might know a guy that knows a guy. Will ask around and get back asap.
… this is indeed what I need! Thank you!
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Was just trying to help even if i am.not a specialist. But i understand.
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Was just trying to help even if i am.not a specialist. But i understand.
Appreciated. And again … my intention wasn’t to be sarcastic please believe me.
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Appreciated. And again … my intention wasn’t to be sarcastic please believe me.
I believe you :)., it is all good Dee-Jay
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It’s a bomb.
It can technically also be put together as a GBU-10:
http://bulletpicker.com/guided_-gbu-10g_b_-gbu-1.htmlIt can/could be put together as an unguided bomb. I have no idea why you would want to do that though as the very nature of its target requires high precision. Would only expect to see it as a GBU-31v3 nowadays, maybe sporadically as a 24.
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It can/could be put together as an unguided bomb. I have no idea why you would want to do that though as the very nature of its target requires high precision.
I know and agree.
But some ppl want it unguided (old fashion pop-up strikes).
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Blu- 109/B always guided, blu-109 its a bomb
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/blu-109.htmThe BLU-109/B (I-2000) is an improved 2,000-pound-class bomb designed as a penetrator without a forward fuze well. Its configuration is relatively slim, and its skin is much harder than that of the standard MK-84 bomb. The skin is a single-piece, forged warhead casing of one-inch, high-grade steel. Its usual tail fuze is a mechanical-electrical FMU-143. The 1,925-pound bomb has a 550-pound tritonal high-explosive blast warhead. The BLU-109/B was always mated with a laser guidance kit to form a laser-guided bomb
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The BLU-109 is a warhead, which when built up in a particular configuration becomes an end-item munition. The BLU-109 is a hard target penetrator version of the Mk84 warhead.
I’m pretty sure that the BLU-109 was developed by the USN and that unit is thermally protected - the BLU-109/B for the USAF is not. It is not always guided - they can be fit for free fall release, and I recall the USN retaining these configurations. In general they can be fit with any nose/tail kit that a MK84 can.
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It’s a bomb.
It can technically also be put together as a GBU-10:
http://bulletpicker.com/guided_-gbu-10g_b_-gbu-1.htmlIt can/could be put together as an unguided bomb. I have no idea why you would want to do that though as the very nature of its target requires high precision. Would only expect to see it as a GBU-31v3 nowadays, maybe sporadically as a 24.
You would do this if you run out of guidance kits.
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I see nothing in current docs that I have access to that have it referenced to anything other than in a GBU configuration for use (see -10, -27, -31, etc).
From what I understand, the heavy weight GBU types require some additional weaponeering by the pilot over just hammering the pickel button, assumption only, but probably could have to do with the attack profile and limitations that you are memtioning.
Doesn’t mean it hasnt been flight tested of course and “could” be authorized in a contingency.
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I’m pretty sure that the BLU-109 was developed by the USN and that unit is thermally protected - the BLU-109/B for the USAF is not.
The BLU-109A/B differs from the BLU-109/B in the type of explosive filler, the addition of an externally installed hardback, and the application of an ablative (heat dissipating) thermal insulation coating to the exterior of the bomb body.
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The BLU-109A/B is externally covered with an ablative thermal insulation coating (AVCOFM26(NA)) to delay fast cook-off, high temperature reaction time.
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The BLU-109/B is painted olive drab. The BLU-109A/B bomb is initially painted with a blue primer. A gray ablative coating is applied over the blue primer.So the A/B is the “USN” version of the /B …
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I see nothing in current docs that I have access to that have it referenced to anything other than in a GBU configuration for use (see -10, -27, -31, etc).
From what I understand, the heavy weight GBU types require some additional weaponeering by the pilot over just hammering the pickel button, assumption only, but probably could have to do with the attack profile and limitations that you are memtioning.
Doesn’t mean it hasnt been flight tested of course and “could” be authorized in a contingency.
Yes - USAF docs? Pretty sure the USN uses the BLU-109 in lieu of Mk80 series and is documented such. One would weaponeer this depending on mission target set.
Any freefall warhead configured with any type of guidance kit is considered a “GBU” in both USN and USAF parlance, AFAIK. USN and USAF don’t always inventory the same munitions/kits, I’m more familiar with Navy.
Yes - all weaponeering/attack profiles are dependent on target set, area defenses, collateral damage considerations, and what is actually available in the main mags. Forex: one may be going low and fast against a hard target (like a dam); in that scenario you wouldn’t want to “waste” a more high valued munition but still require the force of a penetrator warhead - so you’d mount something like a BSU85 RET tail kit and deliver as ballistic. You also have to factor number of munitions required to do the job - this can also be where the Ordies may or may not give you what you’d prefer…like a JDAM or LGB kit…because some other mission has priority over yours.
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If you can drop it without guidence its a bomb , btw i have the idea that a warhead is always a part of a weapon not the weapon itself
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Good grab, Dee-Jay.
Note that other than the two JDAM you depict, one can also configure a GBU-24 (2000# LGB) with either a Mk84 or BLU-109 warhead - at least I know the USN can do that, depending on mission requirement.
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If you can drop it without guidence its a bomb , btw i have the idea that a warhead is always a part of a weapon not the weapon itself
In Navy parlance any un-powered (free fall) weapon is a bomb; guided or not. Anything powered is a missile.
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GBU = Guided Bomb Unit
BLU = Bomb Live Unit