OpenTrack, does BMS work with it?
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This is the issue; you can can find cheaper but not better than TIR5. Even with TIR4 I had some dead zones in the upper corners I could never fix due to its field of view, whereas the TIR5 FOV is wider and Im betting will resolve this, but funds are limited andso TIR5 is off the table for me. I cant find anything better than TIR5, only cheaper.
Thanks Mower for clarification on this.
I’ll think I just buy another TIR5 because ease of use and availability of quite good profiles. Less hassle with settings and more flying.M79
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is edtracker with 6pseudo dof any good? does the latest build have drift problem? can you zoom with edtracker?if they will enable 6dof with extra camera do you think is worth someone to buy it or tir5 is better
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Dunno, I like this too…
http://www.trackhat.org/product-page/trackhat-clip-plushttp://www.trackhat.org/product-page/trackhat-clip-plus-head-tracking-kit
with the camera ofcourse
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Just my 2 cents…
I’ve used both TIR and EDtracker. Both are awesome to use. I settled on EDtracker for a couple of reasons.
The first was cost. They are cheap as chips to build and don’t require a camera setup. Secondly, I found that with the monitor being static, I liked the fact that I could easily return to a center HUD view naturally. I felt with the TIR I was always floating a bit off center or sitting too far away.
With BMS, I have a X56 HOTAS. I’ve setup the scroll pinky wheel on the side of the throttle to change the FOV. This allows quick zooming in on features and ground targets. Scrolling back returns to a set FOV in the cockpit, so I don’t really want the 6-dof complicating that.
The only time I’ve thought that I wanted 6-dof, was looking down at the side panels. Using the Opentrack software, I just introduced a small zoom curve when looking down. It works surprising well and feels natural, like bending your neck forward.
TIR is awesome and the rest of my team uses them, but I have to admit, if I was gifted one now, I don’t think I’d swap out my Edtracker…
Hey, look at it this way (I did…), order a cheap EDTracker kit, grab a soldering iron and get flying. You can do this whilst saving up for a TIR…[emoji846]
Happy to share my profiles.
Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk
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The other day I bought a PS3Eye off kijiji for $10.
Modding it was easy.
I tried it with OpenTrack and did not like it at all, found it very glitchy. As well, for my style of simming, I must have 6DOF. I will not give that up.
I lean towards replacing my TIR, I had a good 10 year run with it, so that means TIR5 new or a second hand TIR4. Of the 2 I prefer new and reliable.
I may use the PS3Eye for now as a stop gap but will begin the lengthy approval process through Committee (ie prone-to-violence-cop-wife) for the funds to be released.
BTW if anyone wants to help a brother simmer out and send anything at all to the help Mower avoid cop-wife-beatings fund, I’m never too proud at my advanced age to decline…paypal [email protected].
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Don’t buy trackhat no good comments about their support and you may experience problem with the wireless clip ,I read about the usb charge port problem with the time. Delanclip has good comments for their support .
So in the end you can go with tir5 ,Delanclip or edtracker ,for Delanclip clip I would choose the wired clip
,the only problem with track ir is the plastic of their clip, and edtracker is only 3 dof -
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Don’t buy trackhat no good comments about their support
That is what I see as well form their forum yes. Also it has been taken over by spam the past year. very bad sign.
Natural Point’s support is top notch from my own experience this past decade.
In the end it pays to fly first class IMHO.
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And so you just wasted $10 that could’ve gone to the TIR5?
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And so you just wasted $10 that could’ve gone to the TIR5?
In an attempt to avoid paying $200 that I dont have, yes. Probably wont have the $ until end of the year so a worthwhile gamble, no?
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In an attempt to avoid paying $200 that I dont have, yes. Probably wont have the $ until end of the year so a worthwhile gamble, no?
What can I say, one loves ‘TIR 5’ and the other is happy with ‘Opentrack’ - and that’s how it should be:drum:.
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In an attempt to avoid paying $200 that I dont have, yes. Probably wont have the $ until end of the year so a worthwhile gamble, no?
So now the TIR5 costs $210 instead of $200. Sometimes, buying cheap ends up being more expensive than buying quality. Not saying the other headtracker options are cheap, just saying that for most situations.
Besides, who said you had to buy TIR new? Lots of TIR being sold here and on eBay from flight simmers and racing simmers who are quitting the hobby so you can get the hardware for cheap.
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Yeah I looked at eBay and the prices are lower but the seller says no exchanges or refunds and crap like that.
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Paypal protection mate.
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On that note, there’s a reason they go cheap secondhand…
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what do you mean?
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FWIF, I’ve been very happy using my cheap Trackhat Clip. I went for the wired version since my Plantronics RIG500 headset isn’t wireless anyway. It comes with an IR-modded PS3 cam and a custom version of opentrack.
However that’s an older version of the software and there’s no reason not to use the official open track software instead, which has far more adjustment options. So I’m using open track 2.3.10 myself and the main advantage over the Trackhat supplied version is the ability to use filters and to fine-tune how responsive the open track software should react to IR signals, allowing me to " tune out" some of the day light that may fall onto the camera lens through my office window. -
When I look back over a decade of flying, never once did I do it without TIR, so it’s definitely paid for itself a thousand times over. And being that am not looking at VR anytime soon for a number of reasons, I have no reservations buying a new TIR. I see little advantage in buying something used.
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No my point is why no TIR? Still the best around for resolution and smoothness. Trouble is, its way overpriced.
When I look back over a decade of flying, never once did I do it without TIR, so it’s definitely paid for itself a thousand times over.
So it’s overpriced but it’s paid for itself a thousand times over and you would not buy it if it were second hand and therefore cheaper than new?
I would see the point in something that is physically used, like a joystick or a FFB wheel, where wear and tear can be an issue, or a CPU or GPU where OC may shorten the life of it. A camera that just sits on your monitor is not physically used and cannot be overclocked…… -
50 quid (max) buys you a sturdy, well-built, full-metal delanclip, a ps/eye cam (/w drivers), an FTNoIR license (if you must, opentrack is free), postage from GB to your doorstep and great customer support from Tomasz.
For $10 in parts you can build your own clip if you know which end of the soldering iron gets hot. Why throw money at NaturalPoint for a ridiculously overpriced, flimsy plastic product that’ll break the 2nd time you drop it (and you’ll do so, I speak from experience :))?
All the best,
Uwe
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The track clip LED is very flimsy design and a shame to come from NaturalPoint; I think we have the same experience
I think where it is important is the specs of the tracking camera itself which is hard (impossible?) to duplicate. IR LED devices are available from other sellers and are more durable and better designed and some are even wireless, so that’s a issue easily solved.I tried other solutions before but due to lack of skill and patience, I just buy TIR5 and get on with it.