ECM - Real Painel functions
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Gentlemen,
The actual ECM system has different and more complex modes to be handled during the Jamming operation. I suggest in future versions of BMS the implementation of the electronic war with all its splendor.
Radar sinaol emissions by band, power, wave and straight radar section of the aircraft (RCS).
Systems of electronic countermeasures like the ALQ-131 and ALQ-184 with their panel working as the jamming modes as in the video below.
It would be very cool to have a reality in treating the electronic war both in radars both in bloquio and to outlaw the communications. These methods must be secret in the current war and if we get to 1/10 of the reality we could already be one step ahead.
More advanced and real RMR systems, AGM-88 and AGM-45 suite and ALQ-131 and ALQ-184’s operation closer to reality joins the combat tactics of the SAMs would be the state of the art.
I leave my little suggestion to improve this fantastic project.
Hughs
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I’m not even gonna open that video link cause I’m pretty content with my freedom. Cheers!
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It’s a video by revientor using BMS, so I’m pretty sure there’s nothing in there that would have the suits knocking down your door.
That said, BMS devs have mentioned before that ECM is a highly classified topic, so they wish to stay well clear from it. In response, some members here have given input on how they could still use publicly available information to enhance ECM, without going too deep down the rabbit hole, so who knows what the future will hold…
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As long as are not modeled every SAM fire control radar and their submodes speaking about “improving” is just a very strange aspect. Quality modeling instead quality is not possible with current EW modeling and is impossible to create a new one which is not only mimic the RL because n+1 factor. What is the suggestion…???
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As long as are not modeled every SAM fire control radar and their submodes speaking about “improving” is just a very strange aspect. Quality modeling instead quality is not possible with current EW modeling and is impossible to create a new one which is not only mimic the RL because n+1 factor. What is the suggestion…???
I fully agree with you, currently electronic warfare is the greatest secret of the armed forces we will never have the faithful operation of the system, but as the AGM-88 that is not faithful but already gives us a degree of complexity if there is someone with some information system that could be implemented would already help in the development of a less-arcade ECM system.
Can anyone help with this?
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I’ve already made a suggestion about ECM panel in another thread.
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I fully agree with you, currently electronic warfare is the greatest secret of the armed forces we will never have the faithful operation of the system, but as the AGM-88 that is not faithful but already gives us a degree of complexity if there is someone with some information system that could be implemented would already help in the development of a less-arcade ECM system.
Can anyone help with this?
The problem is in case you model any unique feature of any SAMs what you do with the rest? The public sources about ECM and ECCM methods more or less ends at ALQ-131 and vs SA-2/3 and VGPO vs SA-5/6. We are talking about late '70s early '80s….
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The problem is in case you model any unique feature of any SAMs what you do with the rest? The public sources about ECM and ECCM methods more or less ends at ALQ-131 and vs SA-2/3 and VGPO vs SA-5/6. We are talking about late '70s early '80s….
There are many confidential things and we should not implement here. But it also can not be an arcade mode; if there are 1970 or 80 models available you can implement them and the newer systems will have to be a fake guessing method to not er problem with military.
If you have any information of these old systems without being confidential you can post so we can make a braimstorm.
Hughs
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There are many confidential things and we should not implement here. But it also can not be an arcade mode; if there are 1970 or 80 models available you can implement them and the newer systems will have to be a fake guessing method to not er problem with military.
If you have any information of these old systems without being confidential you can post so we can make a braimstorm.
Hughs
I don’t think “fake guessing method” is the way they like to do things around here
But what else is there to do…. -
I don’t think “fake guessing method” is the way they like to do things around here
But what else is there to do….Sorry I did not express myself well, I agree that method of divination is not appropriate. I just propose is to get out of the arcade level and develop something a little better than there is.
It’s natively a secret system and there will be limitations, but where we can develop it would be implemented, but where there is no such confidential information we will have to use our heads to do something other than arcade. The AGM-88 is not a real interface but it works by being fake. -
i’m convinced the fear mongers that are always harping on SAP and classified data are simply lazy, or don’t want to do the work, because most of the time it’s not, and if you go by both military tribunal precedent and congressional decree, if it’s in the public eye, even if it was controlled, it isn’t now, or it would not be discussed.
When something in SIC becomes PD, just as in the Palme affair, certain procedures change. This is nowhere more evident than during the administration of carter, when downrange toxicity from groom caused ground water contamination- the EPA cannot discuss things the government do not admit to,nor can the department of energy, or the NSA-
so what do you think is more damaging, a bunch of government employees under oath pretending to not see the documents and photographs of the other government employees they in fact commissioned to document and analyze what they were denying, complete with pay stubs? or just saying " this used to be classified, and now that we are talking about it, it isn’t"
This is literally when the term " i can neither confirm nor deny that" was coined, under orders, and duress, all of which by precedent is thrown out as of 2019.
if there is evidence of it, and video, or documents, and it is not controlled physically, it is by definition not classified.
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i’m convinced the fear mongers that are always harping on SAP and classified data are simply lazy, or don’t want to do the work, because most of the time it’s not, and if you go by both military tribunal precedent and congressional decree, if it’s in the public eye, even if it was controlled, it isn’t now, or it would not be discussed.
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Right. Lazy. That must be it.
Or, maybe, just maybe, there is plenty of work already to measurably improve the sim, in areas that do not involve tiptoeing around legal precedents.
But hey, what the hell do I know…
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ALQ-184’S C-9492 control panel is highly classified
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He is saying highly classified. The full description of the HAD, ECM and FCR are not in the -34
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He is saying highly classified. The full description of the HAD, ECM and FCR are not in the -34
How far can we make a slightly more functional panel that does not run into classified problems?
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How far can we make a slightly more functional panel that does not run into classified problems?
Not much more than what is already coded. Maybe… I say maybe, some light indicators during operation or BIT, and some fault indications.
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