What's up with those rumors
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Me, Im just disappointed I didnt download those videos when I had the chance.
okay, okay, spill the beans fella, you got me interested!
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It was posted this image in DCS topic as I can remember.
ah, yes i remember that one!
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I don’t know if it’s a matter of real world-object proportions issues (Low chances though as if true, it means we were living in a lie all these years).
I just did a measurement and I can confirm that Falcon “world size” is fine. I mean that the distance from 1 point to another measured by the F-16 speed in the sim is same as real world distance. So the “problem” of sense of speed isn’t that.
“Sens of speed” given by a wide angle camera in low level flight.
Hell, checking again now I’m even sure if we have a problem at all… 1 thing I can see though, there is a real difference even between 100 and 400 feet AGL, I mean 100 feet feels MUCH faster.
I guess this point of sense of speed will need to get public feedback when the time comes, for me it’s hard to judge. -
ah, yes i remember that one!
You guys are slow
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My dream is BMS with DCS popularity.
There is at least a chance that your dream comes true, depends on the people.
Or DCS with what’s good on BMS…
There is no chance at all, but well, … you can dream.
Cheers :yo:
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I just did a measurement and I can confirm that Falcon “world size” is fine. I mean that the distance from 1 point to another measured by the F-16 speed in the sim is same as real world distance. So the “problem” of sense of speed isn’t that.
Hell, checking again now I’m even sure if we have a problem at all… 1 thing I can see though, there is a real difference even between 100 and 400 feet AGL, I mean 100 feet feels MUCH faster.
I guess this point of sense of speed will need to get public feedback when the time comes, for me it’s hard to judge.Field of view = sense of speed.
That’s how it works, IMHO -
Yeah that sense of speed i’m talking. Detailed ground gives feeling of speed.
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Field of view = sense of speed.
That’s how it works, IMHO+1. Peripheral vision is where speed sensation comes from.
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well, the rumor is just a rumor…but I hope more active BMS user if 4.35 brought new terrain engine.
BTW, Reading the original Reddit post:
This is really true.
I can’t count how many times I read “I am away from BMS because of VR” from so many different persons at Hoggit.I might even be so bold as to say that they’re not serious simmers if they’re willing to overlook all the extremely accurate and detailed features of BMS simply because it doesn’t have VR support.
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I just did a measurement and I can confirm that Falcon “world size” is fine. I mean that the distance from 1 point to another measured by the F-16 speed in the sim is same as real world distance. So the “problem” of sense of speed isn’t that.
Hell, checking again now I’m even sure if we have a problem at all… 1 thing I can see though, there is a real difference even between 100 and 400 feet AGL, I mean 100 feet feels MUCH faster.
I guess this point of sense of speed will need to get public feedback when the time comes, for me it’s hard to judge.We have seen many differently terrains in the history of this sim,
and regardless how high the mountains or how deep the valleys are in RL,
insim it always felt like flying through a tiny valley.In conclusion I (still) think there is anything to huge in size,
and it has been that way from the very first Falcon 4.0 release.Some have tried to play with FOV values, with slightly better results
regarding sense of speed.Anyway, while in the cockpit (Smart scaling disabled), I feel I’m fat and huge
compared to the surrounding terrain, … whereat I would rather feel like a tiny dot
in a big big world.Now imagine the cockpit view would be scaled way smaller, to be that tiny dot in the world,
… would it change the feeling of flying through deep valleys and the sense of speed positive?Not sure if above can be accomplished by FOV values only.
Maybe just a stupid approach, and I can’t explain better, but hope it helps.
Cheers, :yo:
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I might even be so bold as to say that they’re not serious simmers if they’re willing to overlook all the extremely accurate and detailed features of BMS simply because it doesn’t have VR support.
Could not agree with this more. I don’t really see how I could effectively fly BMS in VR as I use MFDs and lots of keyboard commands in flight. VR works in IL 2 and DCS because most in aircraft your hands don’t need to leave the HOTAS.
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Not sure if above can be accomplished by FOV values only.
Maybe just a stupid approach, and I can’t explain better, but hope it helps.
Cheers, :yo:
LSExcellent explained here (not flight simulator, but works the same):
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Could not agree with this more. I don’t really see how I could effectively fly BMS in VR as I use MFDs and lots of keyboard commands in flight. VR works in IL 2 and DCS because most in aircraft your hands don’t need to leave the HOTAS.
Yeah, I don’t see the point in having VR in falcon. To many knobs and switches to actuate.
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Yeah, I don’t see the point in having VR in falcon. To many knobs and switches to actuate.
I do not have any VR set, but Viper does not have more knobs or switches than Hornet, Tomcat, Harrier or Warthog…
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I might even be so bold as to say that they’re not serious simmers if they’re willing to overlook all the extremely accurate and detailed features of BMS simply because it doesn’t have VR support.
Everyone starts from there, not a serious simmer but just flying is fun, but then how can they notice there is a more serious aspect of simming if the simulator they only play doesn’t feature them? and notice there are extremely accurate and detailed features in BMS if they haven’t touched BMS by chance?
I was just lucky to touch BMS because when I started BMS there was no VR and no other sim that features F-16. Plus DCS was also DX9 too. I then realized BMS has more serious detailed features as I play it deeply. If I didn’t touch BMS, I believed that DCS was the only accurate and detailed combat simulator.
Could not agree with this more. I don’t really see how I could effectively fly BMS in VR as I use MFDs and lots of keyboard commands in flight. VR works in IL 2 and DCS because most in aircraft your hands don’t need to leave the HOTAS.
F/A-18C requires more often “leave HOTAS and click panels” as they even can’t change MFD(DDI) page with HOTAS like F-16 can do. Hornet is “less HOTAS” than F-16. Still, they fly them in VR. F-16 in VR should be more effective then Hornet or Tomcat.
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…serious simmers…
Thats kinda of a funny term. I Sim/Game for enjoyment, not to be serious, that’s my work life….
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Field of view = sense of speed.
That’s how it works, IMHOYes I assume that is true.
We have seen many differently terrains in the history of this sim,
and regardless how high the mountains or how deep the valleys are in RL,
insim it always felt like flying through a tiny valley.In conclusion I (still) think there is anything to huge in size,
and it has been that way from the very first Falcon 4.0 release.Some have tried to play with FOV values, with slightly better results
regarding sense of speed.Anyway, while in the cockpit (Smart scaling disabled), I feel I’m fat and huge
compared to the surrounding terrain, … whereat I would rather feel like a tiny dot
in a big big world.Now imagine the cockpit view would be scaled way smaller, to be that tiny dot in the world,
… would it change the feeling of flying through deep valleys and the sense of speed positive?Not sure if above can be accomplished by FOV values only.
Maybe just a stupid approach, and I can’t explain better, but hope it helps.
Cheers, :yo:
LSMaybe I’m missing you here Lazy. I actually thought that the traditional Falcon FOV is too large, i.e gives you a feeling that the world is huge and you are tiny, and so sense of speed is missing. Actually for good sense of speed, I guess you need to not be that tiny dot, but you need to be “large” relative to the world, no?
But afer yesterday’s tries I’m not even sure that we have a problem really, I won’t know until someone else tries it. Maybe Falcas can give some feedback, as he also has that RL view of things.
Cheers!
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@Lazy
I believe this also looks fat and slow (Maybe cruise speed?):
This on the other hand isn’t (Maybe attack speed?):
Ohhh we know u r fat and huge… we still love’ya… :lol:
//Arty runs and hides… :rofl:
Edit: Noticeable the intense shaking… hmmmm.