Hard to refuel ?
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Except that the KC-135 is not based on the 707.
No, but it was based on the Dash-80 model, which DID do a barrel roll . . . .
So . . . Can a KC-135 do a barrel roll? Unequivocally, YES! . . .
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@TGW:
No, but it was based on the Dash-80 model, which DID do a barrel roll . . . .
So . . . Can a KC-135 do a barrel roll? Unequivocally, YES! . . .
Hehe,
Perhaps, but can it recover from that roll?
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There is few doubts that a KC-135 can perform a barrel roll and recover from it (if a Dash-80 did it…), but may be not at a gross weight required to refuel…
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For all of us crying cause the tanker turn to hard and AAR being too difficult in BMS:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1219373979539996674I’ll think that problem is not difficulty of aar. Real problem is that it is not fun and it’s more like pain in ass to do.
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@M79:
I’ll think that problem is not difficulty of aar. Real problem is that it is not fun and it’s more like pain in ass to do.
I really enjoy AAR. At least 50% of the missions I fly are with AAR
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HAHA, This dude needs more practice
I’d be willing to bet that’s exactly what’s going on here - more practice. The multiple attempts to connect are probably intentional. After all, why fly a sortie and refuel once when you can take the opportunity to do it three of four times? Fly to a recognised contact position then back out to do it again? Unfortunately, without comms or any idea what was briefed, we’ll never know for sure. Maybe the HAF are full of pilots who are shit at AAR!
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I just wanted to note that Dash-80 didn’t do a barrel roll, like the guys in the OP video did. What it did, at least in the video I’ve seen, was a simple airleron roll. Those are two different maneuvers.
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I’d be willing to bet that’s exactly what’s going on here - more practice. The multiple attempts to connect are probably intentional. After all, why fly a sortie and refuel once when you can take the opportunity to do it three of four times? Fly to a recognised contact position then back out to do it again? Unfortunately, without comms or any idea what was briefed, we’ll never know for sure. Maybe the HAF are full of pilots who are shit at AAR!
Maybe this dude is a newbie, it’s his first AAR training mission
HAF has no tankers, it must coordinate NATO tankers for AAR training.
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I just wanted to note that Dash-80 didn’t do a barrel roll, like the guys in the OP video did. What it did, at least in the video I’ve seen, was a simple airleron roll. Those are two different maneuvers.
Sorry Dragon 1-1,
Check your resources. It is indeed a ‘barrel roll’, the aircraft completes a longitudinal revolution while following a helical flightpath (to maintain ~1g).
The other maneuver you are desribing is the ‘aileron roll’ <sp>, a roll along the longitudinal axis with no change in altitude.Reference here:
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I’d be willing to bet that’s exactly what’s going on here - more practice. The multiple attempts to connect are probably intentional. After all, why fly a sortie and refuel once when you can take the opportunity to do it three of four times? Fly to a recognised contact position then back out to do it again? Unfortunately, without comms or any idea what was briefed, we’ll never know for sure. Maybe the HAF are full of pilots who are shit at AAR!
It’s training.
For daytime AAR,a minimum of 3 successful contacts (dry or wet) are required for a pass.