Just to be sure
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Hi MaxWaldorf,
Thank you for your answer,
Far from me the idea of criticizing anythings about BMS and your job, but
We have noted since the release of 4.35 that MICA and weapon system of the Rafale have been degraded.
The flight model is very good no problem on that way.
May be my first question isn’t clear,
After some test, is very more easier to kill MIG29S with F16/AIM120 than with a Rafale/MICA.
So my question is about thisWacco
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@wacco Mav-Jp told me a few weeks ago that MICA/IR is in his “to do list”.
I don’t know is MICA/EM is also in this list.
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@rouge1512
Ok Rouge, so wait and see. -
@wacco said in Just to be sure:
Hi evrybody,
With the 4.35.2, it’s seems that BMS is a F16 simulator.
Flying Rafale become difficult, to see impossible. I don’t know if its the same for other aircrafts?Can you confirm to me your willingness to degrade Rafale or other aircrafts/missiles for the benefit of F16?
Thanks
WaccoHUH ?
so please first explain why it became difficult or impossible to fly Rafale ?
Second : No, we have absolutly no willingness to degrade other aircrafts/ missiles for the benefit of the F16
What happens is that when a specific code is done for F16, like taxi/landing 3 posit switch , sometimes we don thave the ressource to update all aircrafts accordingly. So you could argue this is a design issue and we should always ensure forward compatibility and you would be right, but sometimes we dont think about EVERYTHING
You would be surprised that one of the major feature that will bring 4.36 and that has requested a tremendous amount of code and data is nearly entirely useless for F16
so please , stop thinking that we are only F16 focused.
we are just NOT a 100 people working team and yes we continue to developp the F16 but our intention is NOT to degrade other existing aircrafts
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@mav-jp
I will try to post you acmi film, 1 of a mission and two other on a simple test to explain you my question!
And i confirm there is no accusation ar critic, but just questions, it’s why i post. -
@wacco said in Just to be sure:
@mav-jp
I will try to post you acmi film, 1 of a mission and two other on a simple test to explain you my question!
And i confirm there is no accusation ar critic, but just questions, it’s why i post.i dont understand how an ACMI could show anything
However: first rafale has never been really advertised to be flyable, second : why it that nearly impossible to fly ?
Avionic s?
Flight model ?
weapons ?because none of them have changed
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Nothing has changed regarding the Mica missiles datas (db/fm) since a very long time
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@bad-boy said in Just to be sure:
Nothing has changed regarding the Mica missiles datas (db/fm) since a very long time
Ok, so may be the new Ai reacts will defeat Mica at each time, but no change to aim120 PK.
I’m very please , Bab boy and, or, Mavjp, to continue the discution on TS or Discord on voice.
My be more easier to explain and discribe this point. -
@wacco said in Just to be sure:
@bad-boy said in Just to be sure:
Nothing has changed regarding the Mica missiles datas (db/fm) since a very long time
Ok, so may be the new Ai reacts will defeat Mica at each time, but no change to aim120 PK.
I’m very please , Bab boy and, or, Mavjp, to continue the discution on TS or Discord on voice.
My be more easier to explain and discribe this point.No change in any of those areas in 4.35, mica or aim120
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Based on the informations I have, Mica should have a lower MAR than the AIM-120B anyway.
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@amraam said in Just to be sure:
Based on the informations I have, Mica should have a lower MAR than the AIM-120B anyway.
And the strength of mica is mica IR which is not properly simulated for now
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Don’t speak about MAR, NEZ, RMAX1 etc…
I just want to know why there is a difference flying Rafale /MICA EM between 4.35 U2 and 4.35 U3, because where is a difference.
With U3, it’s very hard to kill A/C. We don’t have change our tactics or Roe’s.
This discution seems to take the same way with my first post about the rafale flight model. I’m desapointed. -
@wacco said in Just to be sure:
Don’t speak about MAR, NEZ, RMAX1 etc…
I just want to know why there is a difference flying Rafale /MICA EM between 4.35 U2 and 4.35 U3, because where is a difference.
With U3, it’s very hard to kill A/C. We don’t have change our tactics or Roe’s.
This discution seems to take the same way with my first post about the rafale flight model. I’m desapointed.Lol that’s just because We fixed a bug in AI that were not properly executing defensive action
It’s a bug that was as old as falcon 4.0 it’s totally unrelated with missile capability
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@mav-jp said in Just to be sure:
@wacco said in Just to be sure:
Don’t speak about MAR, NEZ, RMAX1 etc…
I just want to know why there is a difference flying Rafale /MICA EM between 4.35 U2 and 4.35 U3, because where is a difference.
With U3, it’s very hard to kill A/C. We don’t have change our tactics or Roe’s.
This discution seems to take the same way with my first post about the rafale flight model. I’m desapointed.Lol that’s just because We fixed a bug in AI that were not properly executing defensive action
It’s a bug that was as old as falcon 4.0 it’s totally unrelated with missile capability
As far as rafale flight model it has been unchanged those last 10years
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@wacco said in Just to be sure:
With U3, it’s very hard to kill A/C. We don’t have change our tactics or Roe’s.
Hi. This “issue” is not related to Rafale, the situation is the same with F-16 too. The AI has become smarter and harder to kill in U3.
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Ok, so my apologies for this misunderstanding.
We have to reconsider our A/A tactics.
AMRAAM is more powerfull than MICA and AA12 are, which explains my impression of degradation of Rafale / MICA. -
@wacco said in Just to be sure:
Ok, so my apologies for this misunderstanding.
We have to reconsider our A/A tactics.
AMRAAM is more powerfull than MICA and AA12 are, which explains my impression of degradation of Rafale / MICA.To be check but I think MICa is more or less like AA12….
The good news is that I started working on MICA IR
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@mav-jp said in Just to be sure:
@wacco said in Just to be sure:
Ok, so my apologies for this misunderstanding.
We have to reconsider our A/A tactics.
AMRAAM is more powerfull than MICA and AA12 are, which explains my impression of degradation of Rafale / MICA.To be check but I think MICa is more or less like AA12….
The good news is that I started working on MICA IR
That’s great Mav, that would be a great help against new IA, and waiting METEOR
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@amraam funniest post I ever read for days… How bold can you be to affirm such statement ? Please be humble man…
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@radium I just said “based on the information I have”. No statement behind it.
You should know me a bit more than that ;).