Ice’s Falcon BMS Profile Updated for BMS 4.37
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@Atlas Are you using a US QWERTY Keyboard?
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@Todd1215 My main 4K monitor has 125% I think. My 2 touchscreens is 100%. My 2 touchscreens is arranged one on top of the other, both of which are on the left side of my main 4K monitor. This is a LG C1 OLED which I think sometimes displaces the image a few pixels to the left or right (can’t remember which side) as some sort of method to even out pixel wear, but still does not fully explain the vertical offset for vertical OSBSs but horizontal offset for horizontal OSBs.
I will try resetting scaling to 100% to all of them and see if that fixes it.
@ispolin no issues there, the behaviour shows itself even when just using Helios and BMS is not running.
@linknet UK QWERTY keyboard, but is that a factor?
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@Atlas UK QWERTY is fine, that’s what I use.
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@Atlas Helios is not able to determine which display is using which dpi so you have to set all monitors to the same dpi or else you’ll get odd key pressing occurring just like you are seeing.
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@Todd1215 Changing scaling back to 100% fixed it, thanks! Weird how the touchscreen detects the touch input at the correct position but Helios does not. I had to “reset monitors” fix as well after I changed scaling. I guess I’ll just have to change back-and-forth whenever I fly.
There seems to be a small delay/lag between press and input though, is this normal? Same thing for display extraction, panning the radar cursor, the response seems to be delayed by maybe 0.5-1 second. Is this expected behaviour?
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@Atlas One little caveat to Windows scaling and Helios, if you change the scaling logout and back in or reboot before opening the profile in Helios and performing a monitor reset. This will allow Helios to properly reset the window according to what it thinks is the screen size.
Regarding slow keypresses and slower than expected rendering, I would first look at your hardware. Helios typically doesn’t really take any CPU to run it once its in memory but ymmv depending on what hardware you are running. For the rendering there are a few Helios Falcon Interface settings that you could try. Texture refresh by default is 90 but you do have other values, 60 & 30. These settings are found on the Helios Falcon Interface in the Profile Editor.
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@Todd1215 I presume if I scale everything to 100%, reset monitors in Helios, the return my main screen to 125%, Helios will not run as it will detect a change and will ask for a new monitor reset?
Slow keypresses - I am on a 5900X default clocks, 3080, 32GB RAM. My main screen is connected via HDMI but the touchscreen is connected via DP. Since the touchscreen can only do 60Hz, I think I’ve reset the Helios profile to run at 60. Should I change that to 90?
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@Atlas said in Ice’s Falcon BMS Profile Updated for BMS 4.35 U3:
Slow keypresses - I am on a 5900X default clocks, 3080, 32GB RAM. My main screen is connected via HDMI but the touchscreen is connected via DP. Since the touchscreen can only do 60Hz, I think I’ve reset the Helios profile to run at 60. Should I change that to 90?
The Helios profile always runs at 30Hz, you can’t change that. The only thing that can be changed is the texture refresh rate for the MFDs etc. There is no hard and fast rule for that setting, just set it to whatever works best. The default is 90Hz so if it’s not affecting your frame rate then leave it at that.
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@linknet I will try 90 then, thanks!
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@Atlas said in Ice’s Falcon BMS Profile Updated for BMS 4.35 U3:
I’m about to give this a try, can someone please confirm this works with 4.36? Thank you!
so it works out of box with 4.36?
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@tirta So far it’s worked for me but not used it extensively yet and also my first time using it. There seems to be some issue with input lag (pressing an ICP button and registering input in the sim) and also display lag (radar MFD is like low FPS, like 5FPS or something but the cockpit radar MFD is smooth)
Not sure if that is due to 4.36 or just something on my setup though.
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@linknet said in Ice’s Falcon BMS Profile Updated for BMS 4.35 U3:
The Helios profile always runs at 30Hz, you can’t change that. The only thing that can be changed is the texture refresh rate for the MFDs etc. There is no hard and fast rule for that setting, just set it to whatever works best. The default is 90Hz so if it’s not affecting your frame rate then leave it at that.
Reset it to 90Hz now but the MFDs still lag significantly behind the in-cockpit MFDs. Totally not smooth at all. Am I doing something wrong or have missed a setting/instruction somewhere? Thanks!
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@Atlas said in Ice’s Falcon BMS Profile Updated for BMS 4.35 U3:
@linknet said in Ice’s Falcon BMS Profile Updated for BMS 4.35 U3:
The Helios profile always runs at 30Hz, you can’t change that. The only thing that can be changed is the texture refresh rate for the MFDs etc. There is no hard and fast rule for that setting, just set it to whatever works best. The default is 90Hz so if it’s not affecting your frame rate then leave it at that.
Reset it to 90Hz now but the MFDs still lag significantly behind the in-cockpit MFDs. Totally not smooth at all. Am I doing something wrong or have missed a setting/instruction somewhere? Thanks!
Sounds just like when I first tried using my 4.35.3 Helios Profile in 4.36… Not only were the MFDs lagging, so were all the gauges. Ended up uninstalling 4.36 and installing fresh, tried same profile, works perfectly now…
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@Icer Just to check that I’m understanding correctly ----- reinstalling BMS? Or reinstalling Helios? Or both?
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@Atlas said in Ice’s Falcon BMS Profile Updated for BMS 4.35 U3:
@Icer Just to check that I’m understanding correctly ----- reinstalling BMS? Or reinstalling Helios? Or both?
Just BMS 4.36… I can only guess there was an issue when I copied some old config file over (or something ) the 1st time, and I have not installed any other theaters yet either whereas I installed Baltics and Balkans immediately last time. I do not think theater’s played any part but a vanilla install is the best way to find out… Just be sure to add "set g_bExportRTTTextures 1 " to your Falcon BMS User.cfg file, then give it a go!
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@Icer Well, this is vanilla install, no mods or theatres yet aside from Helios, but I’ll try anything if it will fix. Is there a safe way to uninstall? Or just delete the folder? I can’t remember if the “Falcon dance” included an uninstall dance too.
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@Atlas said in Ice’s Falcon BMS Profile Updated for BMS 4.35 U3:
@Icer Well, this is vanilla install, no mods or theatres yet aside from Helios, but I’ll try anything if it will fix. Is there a safe way to uninstall? Or just delete the folder? I can’t remember if the “Falcon dance” included an uninstall dance too.
You need to go into the x:/Falcon BMS 4.36 Setup folder, run setup.exe, choose uninstall. NEVER just delete folders!
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@Icer Thanks for that!
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Hi, I can get briefing text to save on CPD plan in campaign, but TE or user created TE, I cannot save briefing text on CPD, has the last mission I flew in campaign? Tried everything I can think of?
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@scottd5800 said in Ice’s Falcon BMS Profile Updated for BMS 4.35 U3:
Hi, I can get briefing text to save on CPD plan in campaign, but TE or user created TE, I cannot save briefing text on CPD, has the last mission I flew in campaign? Tried everything I can think of?
Not quite sure that I understand, but if you are trying to use the 4.35-12 profile for BMS 4.36 you may need the updated bin folder files in this download:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/z0r7oye82cuwcp1/Bin_Updates_for_4.36.zip/file