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I’m absolutely done with BMS and the disrespectfull and egodriven characters in this forum and especially in the ‘development’ team. With each new release more bugs than new features are introduced. The fact that there have been (and still are) so many serious bugs in the most basic systems makes me wonder how many people fly this game in a realistic fashion. Actually how many fly this game at all in this rapidly shrinking community. There’s a serious lack of proper testing, wrong priorities and lack of documentation. Serious questions and bug reports are met with sarcasm, rude comments or completely ignored. This community is littered with ego and some individuals are really sick. Like many before me, I’m out.
I took the time to run through your “Nightmare bugs” threads and I’m sorry, but you sim to hang on to tiny details and you aren’t getting convinced when a Dev tells you: “But this is how it’s working”. So in that case I don’t have any sympathy to your post - I honestly expected to read that you couldn’t load the sim, getting continuous CTDs all over, or some showstopper - But if what makes you leave is some “issues” (Mostly in your head) with avionics or AI LGBs falling a couple of seconds longer or some trees at runways… then we can’t help you much.
If you call the BMS Devs “sick” then I suggest you to move on to DCS, I’m sure there you will find everything working as you expect ROFLMAO.
Good luck and don’t let the door hits you on the way out…
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Dear Mr super ego Kyros
Just remember what free means in combination with time consuming effort, and then, just then complain if you dare
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@totiselles I don’t really know why we all just answer this post
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@SoBad said: The most disrespectful and ego-driven character I’ve seen here authored this topic.
I take GREAT offence at THIS…!
Since the early days of Frugal’s I have worked VERY HARD to be the most ego-driven character on ANY forum.
Whilst Kyros may have been disrespectful, how dare anybody call into question my pathologically overbearing ego.
To teach you all a lesson, I am NOT leaving.
The pr0n
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@Aragorn Aragorn has been cultivating disrespect for 20 years and we even love him. Guess one just cant please all of the people all of the time.
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Um, LOL, where is he to go? DCS? Where they can ban you for stuff you say on other forums? Where missiles and AI have been broken for at least a decade now? Where certain mods (not even devs! haha!) have god-like egos and can ban you if you don’t do a bug report right?
Yeah, how dare you BMS devs for not fixing so many serious bugs! And you do this on your free time? Maybe you should all quit your jobs and so that you have more free time and maybe you can fix more bugs! ROFLMAO!
If I meet any BMS dev IRL, a beer and dinner is on me!
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Um, LOL, where is he to go? DCS? Where they can ban you for stuff you say on other forums? Where missiles and AI have been broken for at least a decade now? Where certain mods (not even devs! haha!) have god-like egos and can ban you if you don’t do a bug report right?
Yeah, how dare you BMS devs for not fixing so many serious bugs! And you do this on your free time? Maybe you should all quit your jobs and so that you have more free time and maybe you can fix more bugs! ROFLMAO!
If I meet any BMS dev IRL, a beer and dinner is on me!
(obligatory “no homo bro!”)Never say never. You never met them.
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@dansterAh…Frugal’s World…
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@kyros I don’t know if you are Greek but we have a saying in Greece : κάποιου του δίναν έναν γάιδαρο και αυτός τον κοίταζε στα δόντια. It is the Greek version of the English proverb “Don’t look a gift horse in the mouth” but instead of horse the Greek version has a donkey. The developers spent literally years of their free time to keep the sim running today with tons of improvements on each update. They test as much as possible BUT in the end WE are the final beta testers as well as end users of the sim. I see it as a community project where WE help by locating bugs and reporting them, so they (devs) will prioritize and enter them on the debug queue, so when they will be fixed WE will enjoy a better sim. It is not a game console sim (actually there are no game console Sims) meaning that there are many many many different configurations (CPUs, GPUs, OSs, etc) on each of us ranging from very low end systems to super powerful PC’s, and everybody wants something different fixed or as a future feature according to their personal preference. I can’t say I am sorry to see you leave, I will only be sorry to see @Aragorn leave as he is the salt and pepper of the forum (ok mostly pepper). “Shrinking community” really???
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Σωστά!
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Yes most of your bug reports are valid, thank you for that but
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all of them are very low priority . Some of them are not even bugs but implementation to be polished . For instance I already looked at the HAD symbology , but fixing AHR HPRF to DL or RWR bugs are more imporyant for now and I worked literally several nights on them already with the help of nice community members (not BMS members), and I think they can testify how intense , tricky and time consuming BMS dev is.
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that does not mean we won’t fix it , it will just take time and patience
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the more agressive you are in your posts , the less we will consider even reading you
Typical from a guy that sees only HIS priorities , you remember me some other people that left because couldn’t stand they « their » top priority bugs were not a priority for us
On a side note , saying that each release brings more bugs than before is a huge joke and clearly demonstrate you totally lost the notion of what is an important bug and what is not
Please leave this shitty bms community if you are not happy with us , and good luck in your combat sim adventure with your next community
Bye
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@Mav-jp the fact that you have to respond to such topics makes me sad and also angry for all of you … so much involvement though …
I hope the thanks and gratitude from the whole community will always make you want to continue this absolutely wonderful work…
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I’m absolutely done with BMS and the disrespectfull and egodriven characters in this forum and especially in the ‘development’ team. With each new release more bugs than new features are introduced. The fact that there have been (and still are) so many serious bugs in the most basic systems makes me wonder how many people fly this game in a realistic fashion. Actually how many fly this game at all in this rapidly shrinking community. There’s a serious lack of proper testing, wrong priorities and lack of documentation. Serious questions and bug reports are met with sarcasm, rude comments or completely ignored. This community is littered with ego and some individuals are really sick. Like many before me, I’m out.
Where I was born/raised (deep south Louisiana), we call this a hissy-fit. Or a brat-attack. Always amusing when grown people do it.
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Good keep that, dcs energy out of here. Sorry not sorry but don’t show ass when we are given all this for free on the backs of people we don’t even know
Hope the door don’t hit you on the way out.
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Just make it payable and call it early acces.
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ib4l … You can please all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time, but never all of the people all of the time.
@kyros Despite any flaws or bugs on releases, those expected unexpected new-version-issues are not uncommon in most ALL games, and while it would be awesome if there were better ways to minimize this, I would never berate people who put so much work into something like BMS. It’s very inhuman and disparaging. This is a passion project for these folks, they don’t do it for teh internetz points or for a paycheck, but for love of the sim and this community. Those were some messed up things to say to another person or group of people who produce something for free.
If you really don’t like the sim I guess just return it for a full refund.
As for software development testing, perhaps they’ll just fire the highest paid middle manager for not getting it right.OMG dude, you had me seriously laughing out loud like a fool for a few minutes on that one! haha! well said!!
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@SoBad said: The most disrespectful and ego-driven character I’ve seen here authored this topic.
I take GREAT offence at THIS…!
Since the early days of Frugal’s I have worked VERY HARD to be the most ego-driven character on ANY forum.
Whilst Kyros may have been disrespectful, how dare anybody call into question my pathologically overbearing ego.
To teach you all a lesson, I am NOT leaving.
The pr0n
Oh, boy, now we’ve done it…
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@Aragorn
That sums it up… many will not get it but so much true…