Solved Auto lase and Mav-L in BMS 4.36
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@lcriscola
I agree that is what the manual says. I was hoping it would work like the auto-lase when using a LGB. Thanks for your input. BTW, I do have the master arm on and the master laser ON. I just thought I am missing something. -
@huffer2 said in Auto lase and Mav-L in BMS 4.36:
@lcriscola
I agree that is what the manual says. I was hoping it would work like the auto-lase when using a LGB. Thanks for your input. BTW, I do have the master arm on and the master laser ON. I just thought I am missing something.Theres no Auto-Lasing in BMS included (except the JTAC).
Cheers
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@Micro_440th said in Auto lase and Mav-L in BMS 4.36:
@huffer2 said in Auto lase and Mav-L in BMS 4.36:
@lcriscola
I agree that is what the manual says. I was hoping it would work like the auto-lase when using a LGB. Thanks for your input. BTW, I do have the master arm on and the master laser ON. I just thought I am missing something.Theres no Auto-Lasing in BMS included (except the JTAC).
Cheers
MicroHe’s speaking about laser autostart after x seconds, defined in the laser page of the DED.
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@LorikEolmin That’s not “after xx sec” , but “TTI-xx sec” - TTI referred as “estimated time of impact”. So TTI minus XX sec. - start time before impact (+2 sec after) - for autolasing LGB’s only
But how did you get for auto-lasing mavericks at all ??
While IRL it could be possible, it is not how is implemented.
You lase your target , lock your missile to spot and fire.
It is manual all the way …What could you try is , in CCIP mode, on press TG1/TG2 laser is auto firing for some 30-40 seconds, so use that time to guide - it is not the auot-lasing like for LGB’s … whole another can of worms, there you know estimated time of impact, in LMAV scenario you don’t.
In LMAV scenario you need painted target in before, at least for crude direction and sensor locking , … while you could fire it “blindly” and then lase the target after 1-2-Mississippi for achieving LOAL … but it is all relevant to range and time to target/impact. … so better sooner then later., especially if moving target
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@white_fang
I am understanding this more now, Thanks to you all.
Mav-L and LGB are two separate firing techniques/procedures.
Makes sense when you think about how the ordinance falls and leaves the pylon. LGB have no propulsion—got it. That makes sense why the pilot must keep lasing the target, which may be moving as White-Fang mentions. -
To be honest, at first I was sure there was autolasing because I was seing my TGP automatically lase with a simple TMS-Up (i.e. ground stabylize lead to flashing L).
But then I noticed that in fact I was doing it wrong: my HOTAS (T16k) has separate buttons for first and second trigger detent.
The phisycal trigger is mapped as second detent, the one you press for cannon. This button causes also a stuck first detent (you need to press it at least one time, every next ground stabylize “remembers” that is pressed).Lasing with the button mapped to the first detent works as described in the manual.
All this came from muscular memory from my previous HOTAS X-52 that has a dual stage trigger.
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@vandroy … Well, in previous Falcon’s (before BMS) I had a simple script for toggle of DX1 (TG1) . so, kinda, cheat in a way … but this was simulating auto-lasing … as 1st trigger on stick was toggle , not press/hold.
It is a “trick” … if you need auto-lasing simulatorBTN TG1 /I /H /O /T KD(SimTriggerFirstDetent) /T KU(SimTriggerFirstDetent)
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@lcriscola said in Auto lase and Mav-L in BMS 4.36:
The Training manual say:
“The missile is ready to fire if range and keyhole conditions are valid. Release the weapon (Pickle) and press the gun
trigger to activate the laser immediately (“L” besides IR AREA/IR POINT flashes) till the Maverick hits the target.”it doesn’t have to be immediately as I noticed
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@Alfred Or even … it should be already pressed in before firing (activated laser)…, Or how are you going to see laser spot on sensor (if manually lasing, no FAC/JTAC) if there is not one active
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I just flew a successful camp mission with the MAV-L model. I now see how to get the laser to fire with the auto-lase set to 40sec on the DED. I am using aTM cougar with the 2 stage trigger.
at IP , set the target WP and go AG mode. TMS up to lock target area. Rt/MFD has TGP on and active. LT/MFD switch to SMS and power up the Mavs. Then switch to WPN page. Verify WPN code matches Laser DED code. TGP as SOI. verify my target by zooming in as needed. Trig-1 to manually laser range target, while monitoring the WPN page. When in range, in keyhole, and see a solid box on the WPN page, then pickle the Mav AND pressing the trig-2 detent is now firing the laser and I see the flashing L in the HUD. Turn away and deploy CH/FL as needed,keeping the laser and TGP in view. Now I am getting hits.
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@huffer2 said in Auto lase and Mav-L in BMS 4.36:
I just flew a successful camp mission with the MAV-L model. I now see how to get the laser to fire with the auto-lase set to 40sec on the DED. I am using aTM cougar with the 2 stage trigger.
at IP , set the target WP and go AG mode. TMS up to lock target area. Rt/MFD has TGP on and active. LT/MFD switch to SMS and power up the Mavs. Then switch to WPN page. Verify WPN code matches Laser DED code. TGP as SOI. verify my target by zooming in as needed. Trig-1 to manually laser range target, while monitoring the WPN page. When in range, in keyhole, and see a solid box on the WPN page, then pickle the Mav AND pressing the trig-2 detent is now firing the laser and I see the flashing L in the HUD. Turn away and deploy CH/FL as needed,keeping the laser and TGP in view. Now I am getting hits.
Hope to repeat this on future sorties.You can indeed forget the autolase since you don’t use it. (and can’t).
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