Multiple LGBs: Timing the Release and Lasing?
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I’d like some pointers on releasing multiple Laser Guided Bombs on separate targets.
I’ve been trying my had at the scenario mentioned on page 163 of the Dash 34:
And as a final level of complex challenges, pickle a GBU, count 5 seconds and pickle a 2nd GBU. With the TGP in AREA mode, drop one GBU on a tank and then slew the cross-hairs over to a 2nd tank to kill it. (Remember, there is 5 seconds to acquire the 2nd tank! This works really well with a moving column of vehicles when the distance to slew from one target to the other is reduced by the 2nd vehicle moving towards the cross-hairs by itself).
- I’m setting 12 seconds as the Laser Start Time, and counting off about five seconds before releasing the second bomb.
- The TGP pointer is in Area mode.
- I make sure to hold down only the first trigger detent.
But I cannot nail down:
- The right time to trigger the laser for the first bomb, and how long to keeping lasing.
- If and when to stop lasing the first target before slewing to the new target for the second bomb
- When to start lasing for the second bomb.
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Seems like a fun simulator challenge for lulz, but I doubt this would ever be done, or even practiced in RL.
But try it, record acmi, see how it goes. My guess is it will be hard to get bomb #2 not to track toward target #1. Unless the targets really are quite far apart.
Key questions like, how wide is the “fov” cone of a LGB seeker… what range can it “see” the laser. How much control authority do the fins really have, to change course of a 500 lb bomb falling at terminal velocity. I don’t have the foggiest idea, RL or BMS.
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@Crassus I think you are supposed to lase the first target until impact, then you have 5 seconds to move the laser onto the second tank since the second LGB is still 5 seconds out from impact. So you lase the entire time.
Sounds simple in theory, but I guess it takes a lot of practice. Let us know if you nail it !
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@Crassus said in Multiple LGBs: Timing the Release and Lasing?:
I’d like some pointers on releasing multiple Laser Guided Bombs on separate targets.
I’ve been trying my had at the scenario mentioned on page 163 of the Dash 34:
And as a final level of complex challenges, pickle a GBU, count 5 seconds and pickle a 2nd GBU. With the TGP in AREA mode, drop one GBU on a tank and then slew the cross-hairs over to a 2nd tank to kill it. (Remember, there is 5 seconds to acquire the 2nd tank! This works really well with a moving column of vehicles when the distance to slew from one target to the other is reduced by the 2nd vehicle moving towards the cross-hairs by itself).
- I’m setting 12 seconds as the Laser Start Time, and counting off about five seconds before releasing the second bomb.
- The TGP pointer is in Area mode.
- I make sure to hold down only the first trigger detent.
But I cannot nail down:
- The right time to trigger the laser for the first bomb, and how long to keeping lasing.
- If and when to stop lasing the first target before slewing to the new target for the second bomb
- When to start lasing for the second bomb.
@jayb said in Multiple LGBs: Timing the Release and Lasing?:
@Crassus I think you are supposed to lase the first target until impact, then you have 5 seconds to move the laser onto the second tank since the second LGB is still 5 seconds out from impact. So you lase the entire time.
Sounds simple in theory, but I guess it takes a lot of practice. Let us know if you nail it !
Not realistic practice.
Too risky IRL and almost not possible.
Maybe fun in game … but is a kind to cheating method if it works. (LASER traps and diffraction not simulated)If you want to do this IRL, use GPS guided bombs.
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@Dee-Jay I think in the scenario the tanks are moving, so GPS bombs may not be that useful.
But you are probably right that IRL you can’t move the laser around through dust from the first impact and have the second bomb follow it seamlessly. Still a fun in-game challenge though
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Yes! Just did it: lazed the first target until the first bomb impacted, then slewed to the new target for the second bomb. I even let the TGP auto-lase the target . . . All I had to concern myself with was acquiring the new target within the few seconds I counted off between pickles.Yeah, I can see how it’s unrealistic – so much focus has to be devoted to the TGP MFD, the pilot would lose situational awareness.
Still, hella-fun once you get the hang of it.
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@Crassus Well done mate! Now I have another thing to add to my practice list
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@Crassus said in Multiple LGBs: Timing the Release and Lasing?:
Yeah, I can see how it’s unrealistic – so much focus has to be devoted to the TGP MFD, the pilot would lose situational awareness.
The real reason is that you are not certain you can guide the second LGB, and if it goes balistic, it’ll fall god knows where, which would not be very ethical.
An LGB can glide miles away from where it was intended, so the rules to employ them should be strict. -
@Crassus said in Multiple LGBs: Timing the Release and Lasing?:
Yeah, I can see how it’s unrealistic – so much focus has to be devoted to the TGP MFD, the pilot would lose situational awareness.
Nothing about that … it is technical and about ROEs.
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@Dee-Jay said in Multiple LGBs: Timing the Release and Lasing?:
@Crassus said in Multiple LGBs: Timing the Release and Lasing?:
Yeah, I can see how it’s unrealistic – so much focus has to be devoted to the TGP MFD, the pilot would lose situational awareness.
Nothing about that … it is technical and about ROEs.
EDIT: Flow is right.
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@Flow32 Sure but it can go awol only for the final 5 seconds. Up till then it co-manouvers with the first bomb. But not good for a CAS scenario I guess