TUSBA & Idle Cut-Off Lever
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I’m running a Warthog joystick with a TUSBA Cougar throttle. I use Ice’s profile with Helios for all my ramp-start-up.
Once I’m in the 3D pit, I can’t seem to move the idle cut-off lever to move the throttle from 20% RPM. I have mapped and re-mapped my throttle so that the idle detent lever is mapped but still no joy in moving my engine start-up to 70%.
In Ice’s BMS keyfile, the idle detent is mapped to “Shift .”
Any ideas?
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Hi @Mosquitoe
I’m not familiar with ICE’s profile, and perhaps the publisher would support you with it.I have a TUBSA, but not tried to map the analogue position to trigger the idle detent. Because of the lack of a ‘hard’ stop, its’ too easy to ‘cut’ off the engine when slapping the throttle to ‘idle’. I use the DX ‘shifted’ cage/uncage button to toggle the idle detent on/off. Much safer. (I physically removed the idle detent by aligning the ring notches to the AB position. to give more throttle resolution, but that’s a by the by…)
If you want to go down the DX KEY file rabbit hole, heres’ my relevant DX mappings. (Note that my joystick is device 1, and my TUBSA is device 4, and the shift offset is 256, found in parameter g_nHotasPinkyShiftMagnitude in the falcon bms.cfg file). IDLE detent is button 12 (DX11 position) on your throttle
SimHotasPinkyShift 2 8 -2 0 0x0 0 This makes the stick pinky the 'shift' button SimThrottleIdleDetent 363 8 -2 0 0x0 0 This is the shifted 'CAGE' mapping (11+256+96)
If your stick is device 1, and throttle is device 2 then it may look like…
SimHotasPinkyShift 2 8 -2 0 0x0 0 SimThrottleIdleDetent 299 8 -2 0 0x0 0 (11+256+32)
A+B+C
A= Button value -1
B = Shift offset. (256 comes from the set g_nHotasPinkyShiftMagnitude 256 in the Falcon bms.cfg file).
C = (Device position - 1) x 32 find the device positions from the DeviceSorting.txt file in the config folderi’ve looked into Ice’s key file, and you could modify it by adding the above 2 mappings at the end. Remember to back up the file before changing it.
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@Fish44, thanks very much for sending me the DX mapping for my HOTAS (should have thought of it myself!)
With these lines:
- In F4Patch, should I have Idle Cutoff enabled?
- In F4 Config, should I set g_bUseAnalogIdleCutoff to zero if I’m using the DX mapping?
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@Fish44 I’ve taken out the Idle Detent lines in Ice’s keyfile which were these:
SimThrottleIdleDetent 314 0 0X34 1 0 0 1 “TQS: CUTOFF RELEASE - Idle Detent”
SimThrottleIdleDetentForward 314 0 0XFFFFFFFF 0 0 0 1 “TQS: CUTOFF RELEASE - Idle Detent - Idle” -
@Fish44, I can now activate the idle detent lever with my mouse. I’m not sure if that’s supposed to work this way as a pinky shift on my throttle didn’t work.
I now have an issue where if I put the throttle into idle, the engine shuts down which means doing a restart while flying.
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@greatcouloir It’s unchecked
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@Mosquitoe Scratching my head here. In the falcon bms.cfg file,
set g_bUseAnalogIdleCutoff 0 should be like this. The analog throttle has no effect on IDLE switching. Whatever you have mapped to the IDLE cutoff works, including the mouse.
If its set to
set g_bUseAnalogIdleCutoff 1 the mouse or other mapped keys/buttons WONT work to release / engage the idle detent. It will release if you push your throttle above 10%
Suggest you do your testing on the ground at ramp. Can be tested cold, no power. The throttle is locked and should not move by default, and then when you release with the mouse click, you should be able to cycle the throttle. (once its below 10%!!)
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@Fish44 Problem solved! Got some help in cleaning up my joystick profile. I can now move my throttle up from idle in-game by holding down the Pinky switch and left clicking on the throttle idle detent lever in the 3D cockpit. No more engine flameouts!
Merry Christmas!