Solved Gear problem on client in mp flights
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Version
4.37.0Build
322Detailed Description
Client in MP flights have problems with gears, like we have in 4.36 problems with nose gear, today during flight wy wingman(he was a Client, i was server) have problem with retracting gears:We both do same start up procedure, mostly as stated in tarining manual, maybe with skipping some test, right after take off we start retract gear at ~190kts, i was fine and have no issues during all flight, but my wingman’s main gear didn’t retract
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main gear lights ON, nose gear light Off, HUD show AoA bracket(so i think aircraft still think he in T0 / Landing mode)
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cycling Gear Lever did’t help, at that moment i look at my wingman’s plane using external view and main gear was extended, nose gear retracted
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after that my N2 use ALT GEAR to extend gear and then move Gear Lever to down, it helps and after it he can retract all three gears, but get NWS FAIL light, and HUD still show AoA bracket and all indication for T0/Landing
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during landing he have a same issue with nose gear(light did’t come on, but gear look good on ext view), ALT GEAR didn’t help, but during landing nose gear didn’t collapse(NWS Failed anyway)
Pictures
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Example files-
My Dump file(server side):https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_JzGQ2meZXGAz2L1B7kDiPpmFMy29aCA/view?usp=sharing
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My wingman Dump file(client side): https://drive.google.com/file/d/1r7XfbygLwxF-reQ-tgmttaPBCmQYVf58/view?usp=sharing
Crash logs
No crash here, so i don’t have any logs in LOGs folder except dtc_last_flight_faults, my was clean, but my wingman was full of failures.link to drive : https://drive.google.com/file/d/17W-Jjuc3jIi1N11j1-I5jkGyrG3gLDCl/view?usp=sharing
Reproducibility Procedure
Looks like it absolutly random behaviour, but happens only on client side, on 4.36 my friend also have problems with gear(nose gear don’t extend), but i never have that problem over a 30+ sorties.Expected Behavior
…Hope that helps, thaks for your work!
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@SkyF0x said in Gear problem on client in mp flights:
@airtex2019 Yes, I only know one person with this problem personally, i think it’s bug because in 4.36 i seen reports about gear problems(problems with nose gear extension), and i thought that bug still not fixed, maybe it my bad
The bug is fixed
Check brake analog axis assignment
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Very hard to reproduce…
Was it on KTO? what Airfield?
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@SkyF0x also what block of F-16 was it?
can you clarify what moment the dump files were recorded … (I assume you did this manually via TaskMgr or WinDbg?)
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@SkyF0x hmm… does your wingman have analog toe brakes?
I think I’ve heard stories of bad things happening when not enough deadzone/saturation … ie. wheels catching on fire
just a random thought. if it’s not something silly like that… this may require capturing video to understand what’s happening.
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@MaxWaldorf yes, i understand it hard to reproduce… It was KTO, Gunsan.
@airtex2019 F-16CM-50, yes dump files was captured manually after landing, and yes i think he use axis, i’ll ask him(but i don’t think problem here, it was formation take off and i don’t see he falling behind me until i raise gears).
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@SkyF0x To be checked in -1
But once you have performed and ALT GEAR extension (means that you have/had an anomaly) IMHO, you are not supposed to retract it. You keep it down and land ANSA.(Of course, it doesn’t mean that there is no bug here and I am not saying that it must not be looked at is possible).
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@Dee-Jay Yes if you have problems with extend gears and use ALT GEAR Handle you should land asap, which we did in that flight).
Also -1, says you can retract gear if press reset button on ALT GEAR handle if you have pressure in hyd B, and in fact which we do and gear raised, but HUD(maybe FLCS also) remain in TO/LDG mode.
Also question: if we make dump files at moment when problem occurs, will it help you?
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No…
We need a way to reproduce the issue…
Taking a state doesn’t help since it is not a CTD.So better find a way to reproduce the issue and send the case + TE
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@SkyF0x said in Gear problem on client in mp flights:
Looks like it absolutly random behaviour, but happens only on client side, on 4.36 my friend also have problems with gear(nose gear don’t extend), but i never have that problem over a 30+ sorties.
Just to understand correctly – is it just 1 person having this problem?
I have to suspect he’s just trashing the jet (maybe inadvertently, eg. with a noisy or nonzero’d toebrake axis).
Is there any reason to think this a bug or broken BMS code? (what is that reason? not clear to me)
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@airtex2019 Yes, I only know one person with this problem personally, i think it’s bug because in 4.36 i seen reports about gear problems(problems with nose gear extension), and i thought that bug still not fixed, maybe it my bad
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@SkyF0x said in Gear problem on client in mp flights:
@airtex2019 Yes, I only know one person with this problem personally, i think it’s bug because in 4.36 i seen reports about gear problems(problems with nose gear extension), and i thought that bug still not fixed, maybe it my bad
The bug is fixed
Check brake analog axis assignment
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@Mav-jp Yes, looks like it was problem with axis, for last 10 flights there no problems. Sorry for false report