Kunsan
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When did Kunsan change to Gunsan? And why?
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That is a very Kood question.
Maybe one of our Gorean friends could answer.
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Bring on the popcorn !!!
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They were changed in BMS 4.36 to match the real life pronunciations. Ref: Data Changelog
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@johku Thanks mate!
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@johku But my opinion is the ATC clearly says Kunsan. I’m all about getting improvements… but that’s just silly.
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South Korea made the letter changes from K to G. In Korean some K sounds are like G. Phonetics reasons. Kunsan is now Gunsan. Also Kangneung is now Gangneung. Pusan is now Busan.
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@donw43 ATC needs to be updated. It is not correct anymore.
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@Icarus
No it is correct.We have Gunsan airport (the whole airport). Part of it is Kunsan airbase.
When talking to ATC, it is Kunsan (because 8th Fighter Wing uses its own ATC which is working togehter with civil ATC).
Diagrams/Navaids are Gunsan.
All good though. Easy heh?
Believe me, we had A LOT of discussions already about this…
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@Micro_440th Ah good then
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The English notation of Korean city names has changed and evolved over time for various historical reasons. One of the main reasons is that there has not been a unified method for transcribing Korean pronunciation in English. Many English place names were also influenced by the notation used in maps produced by the US military during the Korean War. While standardized notation is now used, there are still some older notations in use. In terms of Korean pronunciation, the correct way to write the city of Gunsan is with a “g,” as it is much closer to the correct pronunciation than if it were written with a “k.” The same is true for the city of Busan, which should be written with a “b.” According to the standard notation, the Korean letter “ㄱ” can be written as either “g” or “k,” but when a vowel follows “ㄱ” (as is the case with Gunsan), it is written as “g.” So to summarize, the correct English notation for the city of Gunsan is “Gunsan.”
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@donw43
In my original thick Falcon 4 manual, it is written Gunsan. So it must have been before that. -
Gunsan is closer pronunciation than Kunsan. Similar cases: Gangneung, Daegu, Gimhae, Gimpo, Gwangju, Jungwon, Busan, and etc. But TTS saying is still hard to catch for me.
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@sparrowGR in my binder version from 2000, it was Kunsan. LOL and found some 22 year old highlighter marks while learning back then…
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When did Kunsan change to Gunsan? And why?
Quite simple:
Official AIPs (Aeronautical Information Publication (E-AIP) / Aerodrome Table) were used as references for airports/airfield names to keep everything as consistent as possible between new airfield and old ones.“Kunsan AB” is the military part of the airfield … but for the airfield, official Korean aeronautical publications shows “Gunsan”.
However, note that US DoD publications (only for military use) shows “Kunsan”.
After some “animated” discussions, changes of minds, multiple changes in database, not having time to spend my entire life on that essential problem … I’ve made the choice to refer to Korean AIPs and the decision was finally made.Does this answer your question?
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I believe this photo makes everything clear
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@Dee-Jay Sure does! Thanks Dee-Jay… for this, and everything else you’ve done for this community over the years… decades! I appreciate you Mate!
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I’ve always wondered about this. Good to know.
Now let’s all get back to fighting the war above South Gorea.
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