Two Seater F-16 DJ
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Instructor would have to take-off then land. Otherwise, without taking-off, 50min after T/O time, he will be kicked out the 3D world (flight canceled).
IMHO most of training flights are not last longer than 30-45 min.
The concept of creating two seater is interesting, but I have another idea. Is it possible to create such a big cockpit wihch has front and back seats either? (I know, polycont can be an issue.) If it is possible with fixed snapshot position maybe is possible to create rear view. Is it possible to set such and X,Z,Y coordiantes? (Or if you have TIR you can move your head to be on the rear seat.) Only problem is the used qty. of MFD, the total can be only 4. It is possible to display twice the same MFD? Even if it is possible the instructor can see only the same MFD what the pilot uses.
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Hi Folks,
I present: the Two Seater F-16 DJThe Facts:
All standard instruments are provided; inclusive the HUD und MFD´s and we even sit behind
our students in the back seat.
The only disadvantage, we cannot take over the control of the aircraft in this position on the
backseat as instructors.Applications:
The F-16DJ Block 52 can be used for now on as a trainer in almost all aspects of trainingflights.
It is also useful to swap the position, instructor in front, student behind or vice versa.
The instructor is now able to show his student any kind of manoeuvres without writing endless tutorial or make a video.
This can be used on combat mission as well. The pilot focuses on flying, the co pilot in his backseat takes care on navigation, Bullseye etc.
So a lot of new opportunities, as you can see.With a little proud I present here my approach to the two- seater F-16 DJ, which in particular allowes to make effective the training of new pilots a lot.
To my knowledge this has not yet been impemented in this scope and so I am pleased that so I can make a modest contribution to the BMS community.
However, I do not want to addorn myself with borrowed plumes.
I have availed myself tools such the MFD Extractor and the TopGun View.
So I have nothing new developed, but only a few things combined.
So, thank to all, who made this technically possible.On our tactic page you will find
And in which I present a VIDEO of the new features and capabilities (mp4 103 MB)
ENJOY
Bumerang X/O;)
47 Dragon Fighter
www.47df.comAm I seeing this right???
The miracle finally happen???
WOW… got to test this
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That movie was incredibly well done. Camera angles, narrative, editing…all superb. Nice production.
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Very nice beginning I hope BMS programmers help you also to make it more realistic and why not with both pilots’ flight control.
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Am I seeing this right???
The miracle finally happen???
WOW… got to test this
Thanks a ton, Bumerang!Not really a miracle. It’s a clever way of positioning the camera and using MFDE.
87th Has been using MFDE for some time now to simulate the ROVER system voor CAS missions.But still. Clever way to get close to a 2-seater.
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It’s possible!!! WOW… You can defiantly teach some basic fundamentals but It would be great if a 3D 6 DOF back seat cockpit was created and the ability for the instructor to take control.
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This would be TagNights dream come true.
There would be lots of large red text and a endless series of “read my post again”
Nice effort Bumerang or should that be “Boomerang”. Get back to me if you can.
Cheers ……
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Very nice. Will defiantly have a go with this. Just love the creative mind in this forum…
Greetings
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I can’t see the video at work… so would your Track IR work from the back seat? And if I understand correctly, you can only view the HUD and MFDs if you use MFD extractor on another monitor?
IMHO most of training flights are not last longer than 30-45 min.
.You can spend 20mins on the ground with a student just doing the ramp start and making your takeoff time. Most of our training flights last 2hrs from ramp to ramp.
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cant see the vid folks, all i get is an untitled tab and thats it
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Thats why your the king jammer
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Also thought the same as Demo above……
Great job and a fantastic benchmark for IP flights in the future.
Well done
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Very cool. I never cease to be surprised at the skill and creativity of community members on this site.
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So since you’re using Top Gun views (an external view), is there anyway to make the view/panning around tied to TrackIR? Or maybe just use external mouse look and use the mouse?
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Sadly in TG view panning is not available. If the code would support…
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Hi All,
according
from manual:
Instructor would have to take-off then land. Otherwise, without taking-off, 50min after T/O time, he will be kicked out the 3D world (flight canceled).I knew nothing of it. The day before yesterday we flew an ILS trainings sortie vom Kunsan to Kimpo, land there and fly back to Kimpo. It´s takes about 2 hours! Yes, for this simple short trip!
Some thinks take time as the head of the student´s full.;) During this flight I´m not kicked out the 3-D world after 50min, maybe because I´m in the same flight as other human???
Anywere, when its happend (kicked out) we can proceed like
Arty (thanks)
open atc.ini file inside the save folder of your theater for example in Aegean: C:\Falcon BMS 4.32\Data\Add-On Aegean\Campaign\Aegean
and change
PlayerBumpTime = 50
to whatever u like… like 50000 so u will be kicked after 50000 minutes.
also same goes for
AIPullTime = 10
AIPatience = 120
ATCPatience = 180However, something else I noticed on this flight. We we reaching Kimpo, I can´t see the airport layout. My own plane parking in Kunsan and so unfortunately I´m outside the bubble.
To Demo:
No, Track IR is not working on backseat. TopGun View is a fixed view.
Momentary you can define 4 different views. I would imagine that you can increase the number of views. So you could simulate a 2-D Cockpit…
Therefore my question: Anyone knows how to increase the number of views?Question:
And if I understand correctly, you can only view the HUD and MFDs if you use MFD extractor on another monitor?No, you can use all MFD extractor instruments on your´re primary monitor as well!
It is not necessary to have an additional monitor.Well my Video does show just how it looks. Unfortunately it can not convey how cool it is.
Stripping behind the student, grab the coffee to go and just say, lets go, start the engine.
If one looks at the finger in the student, you get a much better impression of his skill.
For example: If the student makes entries into the ICP/ DED, you can see from the speed and the error occurring as quickly
His brain works and whether the cup is already full.
So you an better enable the students into.Try it out!
Greetings
Bumerang