Laser guided Missiles
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Before I start wasting time…
Would it be possible at all to create laser guided missiles? Like the AGM114 and AGM65E.
I know a bug can cause an LGB to kinda act like a missile…Would I be able to edit FM’s and properties of weapons to follow a certain flight path and track the laser pointer of the TGP?
i.e. make the AGM114 act like the HARM, popping up high then impacting from the top.I know the AGM114 is no F16 weapon but I was wondering because of the upcomming UAV that pops up here and there.
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Long time ago I have tried, but I was not successful. As I know this is not possible with current code + DB.
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That’s a shame (correct word ?)
I was looking for the same thing about the AS.30L missile.
I find this funny cause we’re are forced to have a TGP when we select those missiles but inflight we launch them like a Maverick ^^Maybe this is coming for the 4.33 (long wish list incoming :D)
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3-4 weeks
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Wasn’t it 2-3 weeks? I am getting confused.
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AGM-65E need also correct WPN MFD page to make it realistic.
Here is a secret video from DCS with this MFD page (its secret because ED illegally modelled it in civilian DCS:A-10C version, then they removed it in later updates).
AGM-65E should be able to be fired using buddy’s laser even without TGP.
So there is a lot of work to implement it in BMS. -
AGM-65E need also correct WPN MFD page to make it realistic.
Here is a secret video from DCS with this MFD page (its secret because ED illegally modelled it in civilian DCS:A-10C version, then they removed it in later updates).
AGM-65E should be able to be fired using buddy’s laser even without TGP.
So there is a lot of work to implement it in BMS.The AGM-65E is illegal to develop ? … but the JDAM is not ? seriously …
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After i did some kind of interiwev ED dev told me that they don’t got premission to release it in “enthertaiment” version.
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Sorry, i am not disputing what you say, it is just that it sounds very silly, they have JDAM modelled but yet the AGM-65E is not allowed …very silly, especially when the Maverick has been replaced by JDAM’s in former user countries.
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I knew I’d read this somewhere else before.
http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3762308/Re_Functioning_AGM_65E_Laser_M
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@Parker:
Sorry, i am not disputing what you say, it is just that it sounds very silly, they have JDAM modelled but yet the AGM-65E is not allowed …very silly, especially when the Maverick has been replaced by JDAM’s in former user countries.
AFAIK, is not due to the weapon, the restriction on DCS A-10C is to the A-10’s software. ED is allowed to modeled only a specific version with specific capabilities. So if the A-10C later acquired or gain new capabilities or ability to employ other weapons they can’t model those updates. Again, as I know, AGM-65E was introduce later. Not a missile normally use in the USAF ether. I never seen USAF F-16 carrying laser guided missiles. Out of curiosity, what laser guided missiles are carried by other countries on the F-16?
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I see,as far as i know none, only the AGM-65/A/B/D/G was used.
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Correct, why anybody would like to take the changes on guiding a missile weapon that can go ballistic if the beam is interrupted by weather or fire smoke? Don’t “smart bombs” produce enough side casualties already?
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AGM-65E need also correct WPN MFD page to make it realistic.
Here is a secret video from DCS with this MFD page (its secret because ED illegally modelled it in civilian DCS:A-10C version, then they removed it in later updates).
AGM-65E should be able to be fired using buddy’s laser even without TGP.
So there is a lot of work to implement it in BMS.Interesting stuff about the WPN page, maybe will make use of it depends on priorities and time. Although I don’t see any “real” value here besides making sure that the missile can track the laser spot (and not suffer any damage, for example), but what’s the difference from a LGB in that regard?
Laser code is also not a big deal, for LGBs AFAIK the code is dialed before flight and can’t be changed because there is no interface with the weapon. For Mavericks there is an interface.
Of course all details would be nice to have but priority is low, at least for me. Laser guided missiles will “work” though.
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Correct, why anybody would like to take the changes on guiding a missile weapon that can go ballistic if the beam is interrupted by weather or fire smoke? Don’t “smart bombs” produce enough side casualties already?
The E Maverick was developed based on a request from the USMC in the 1980s for a CAS variant of the Maverick. The SALH guidance offers two real advantages in this role.
- It allows a JTAC/FAC with a laser designator to guide a weapon to their intended target directly.
- It allows the aircraft to engage targets such as bunkers/trenches/specific building parts that do not provide enough contrast for other maverick variants to lock on to.
Also, compared to LGBs of the era, it offers some form of standoff.
That said, I agree that I would prefer the fire and forget functionality of the other maverick variants just about any other job than CAS.
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I started this thread not based on what is prefered to be used, but to see if there is a way to create laser guided missiles for use other than the F16. Like UAVs which is being worked on.
The answer was: not modelled and not possible.
Lock please
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The E Maverick was developed based on a request from the USMC in the 1980s for a CAS variant of the Maverick. The SALH guidance offers two real advantages in this role.
- It allows a JTAC/FAC with a laser designator to guide a weapon to their intended target directly.
- It allows the aircraft to engage targets such as bunkers/trenches/specific building parts that do not provide enough contrast for other maverick variants to lock on to.
Also, compared to LGBs of the era, it offers some form of standoff.
That said, I agree that I would prefer the fire and forget functionality of the other maverick variants just about any other job than CAS.
I agree with you,
BUT,
War experience in Gulf and Bosnia proved the worst aliases theory: enemies just put on huge fires burning tires around major or possible targets, that most of the time would brake that kind of guidance. So the E usage was minimal, in fact in Gulf the USMC planes had a success ratio below 60% with the E exactly for this reason witch is unacceptable for an a2g precision attack weapon… So guess were the rest 40%+ hit.
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The answer was: not modelled and not possible.
I think you got it wrong there…
Not modelled, yet, yes.
Not possible? It is absolutely possible, in 3-4 weeks.
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Haha :D:p
Ok let me rephrase:
Not modelled and not possible yet.