WIP: B1-B
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B1-B has been deployed and seen more bombing action than most F16s. It should have been implemented into the d/b long ago. (and it is)
With such a plane, why would you not want it in BMS?
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B1-B has been deployed and seen more bombing action than most F16s.
This is 100% false. F-16 had seen action over Osirak, in 1982 (PfG), 1991 (ODS), 1999 (AF) and over Iraq and Afgansitan. And this is only US/Israli usage… B-1Bs fly very limited missions during AF only with dumb bombs, and when enough JDAMs were available over Middle East.
Even you were right it would be pointless because the campaign what is impotant. Current B-1 with current ATO and modeling is a “who cares” jet in Falcon world…
With such a plane, why would you not want it in BMS?
I never said I do not want. I said other AC should get much higher priority…
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Molni start a thread and according to your criteria make a priority list based on units… split it in
1. Air
2. Ground
3. Naval
4. Weapons - ammunition (Air - Ground - Naval).This might help more then just a post like well nice but just a “who cares” Jet.
Cause for now except the BMS list posted here the Dev’s - Modders do their job according to their personal preferences and likes…
So this might help I believe…ppl could jump in and question your prioritization but u could argue and maybe refine the lists priority…
What do u say?
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Molni start a thread and according to your criteria make a priority list based on units… split it in
Is it worth? Because as you and I have stated many “modders do their job according to their personal preferences and likes”…
ppl could jump in and question your prioritization but u could argue and maybe refine the lists priority…
What do u sayI can do this but will any dev consider it? I doubt… BTW we have an organization thread. Should I create a new one?
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has no role in any campaign
I simply do not understand what is the point of new P-3 and B-1 model
is a “who cares” jet in Falcon world…
There we go again… for countless time…
This kind of attitude is a major show-stopper for any person that wants to help anyhow. Please learn to create YOUR toyz, then do whatever you want with them. I (and I guess many others too) are bored to always read such comments in every attempt from a dev to create something new… It is called his creativity, at his free time, his passion for this asset that might be his favorite. Please STOP posting under any new model’s WIP thread how much important are (to you) the F-16A’s and F-4C’s and allow the time to populate the DB with whatever is going to be.
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This kind of attitude is a major show-stopper for any person that wants to help anyhow.
Saying about a personal opinion is showstopper? Whoa… I learn new things in every day…
Please learn to create YOUR toyz, then do whatever you want with them.
I tried and I failed. BTW repvez and many Hungarian guys asked many times help in PM or on forum and they got 0 help… Thx. the advice…
It is called his creativity, at his free time, his passion for this asset that might be his favorite.
I understand and I accept that.
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One more clues about why BMS (in general) prefer not to communicate about ongoing projects, development and improvement.
Personally, I think that Pumpy, Hayab, Bonedust … and I … should rather post anything and stay as silent as a grave until the release.
While Monli and others are free to give their personal opinion here, It doesn’t change certainly nothing to the final result, and brings that kind of off topic, pointless, and non appreciated discussion.
Thoughts.
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Thanks to Hayab for this beautiful model (respecting BMS 3D requirements and limitations… which is much much harder than doing a model with an unlimited polycounts).
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Beautiful model, many thanks! waiting for the thread to start about it needing an AFM
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well the organization BMS list must be updated from the BMS this one could be by u.
I don’t see much participation or following the BMS list…
Also the thing is we don’t know what BMS has done or it’s focus…
This one will be the community one… and BMS can jump in and inform.The BMS List is small and not updated since: Last edited by WaveyDave; November 2nd, 2013 at 16:34. Reason: Updated vehicle polycount
So u need more reasons?
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@Harlequin no no AFMS on the list sorry… :lol: it’s simple All except F-16 and M2k… :lol:
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Molni, you are active in the Falcon community long before many others and by now, it must have been crystal clear for you that Falcon 4.0 derivatives like BMS is a passion driven project. People develop stuff because they like to do that in their free time. And best for all they share the fruits from their work with everybody for free. Sometimes the project that being started by some are really hard to do and time consuming. Eventually it becomes really hard to keep your motivation up until finishing the whole project. And when the creators come to this forum and see unsatisfaction and people complaining about their work it’s really a big show stopper for them to continue working on it.
This is not ED or any other major sim development studio’s forum where people complain about stuff they have paid for. This is more like place for artists and creative people who share their work and ideas. And with the ungrateful attitude that some of the people are showing here, this is going to affect future development more in a negative, then positive way. Just my 2c.Again great work from Hayab, you are one really talented low poly modeler. Looking forward and waiting patiently for all the new goodies coming with 4.33
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Partially textured LOD0. 26k Tris.
http://abload.de/img/2014-06-03_10340582zvi.jpg
http://abload.de/img/2014-06-03_103432jtykh.jpg
http://abload.de/img/2014-06-03_103522fqarc.jpg
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http://abload.de/img/2014-06-03_104659x2xkc.jpgRegards,
HayabWOW great work, mate. Keep it up!
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Wonderful work Hayab, waiting patiently for 4.33 and all the stuffs around new 3d models.
Best Regards and congratulations !
dema
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Very nice work, I love the Bones B1 there I really found the beast.
Congratulations Hayab
Serpentaire
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Wow!! F^%$ awesome, oops sorry!!;)
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Misread Molni and trolled his post. Sorry about that, thought you were pointing the IRL and not in the sim. Apologies. He made a valid point about the B-1B in Korean campaigns. -
Molni to save the embarrassment, just stop. You are incorrect about the B-1B. There’s a reason it’s at Nellis for nearly every Red Flag blowing brakes and tires because the runways too short for a heavy bomber with a lot of gas. The B-1B is a great CAS aircraft. detrators aside, using just two of its rotary bays allows you to carry everything in variance. One full of different types of JDAM and LGBs, one with dumb or WCMD. Its got a sniper pod, and nothing can catch it on the deck without being attached to a supersonic tanker for the attempt. Talk to any pilot of a B1B and you’ll realize THEY have been in action constantly since Desert Fox. I’ll give you one thing, it doesn’t have a gun, but that’s about it. F-14’s found a way to “shoot down” the B-2 during Red Flag, but nobody touches a B-1B, you can see it visibly and the dust cloud it kicks it on the deck, but no missile will ever close the distance from the rear quarter, and it looks like a Cessna 172 from head on, on the radar screen. In many ways, the B-1B is a much more viable platform than the B-2, and prior to SALTS treaty, the B-1B could carry more than both the B-52 and the B-2.
+1, I also want to add that just because the B-1B has limited appearance in the Korean campaigns doesn’t mean it won’t see greater exposure when additional 3rd party theatres are released in the near future.
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Molni to save the embarrassment, just stop. You are incorrect about the B-1B. There’s a reason it’s at Nellis for nearly every Red Flag blowing brakes and tires because the runways too short for a heavy bomber with a lot of gas. The B-1B is a great CAS aircraft. detrators aside, using just two of its rotary bays allows you to carry everything in variance. One full of different types of JDAM and LGBs, one with dumb or WCMD. Its got a sniper pod, and nothing can catch it on the deck without being attached to a supersonic tanker for the attempt. Talk to any pilot of a B1B and you’ll realize THEY have been in action constantly since Desert Fox. I’ll give you one thing, it doesn’t have a gun, but that’s about it. F-14’s found a way to “shoot down” the B-2 during Red Flag, but nobody touches a B-1B, you can see it visibly and the dust cloud it kicks it on the deck, but no missile will ever close the distance from the rear quarter, and it looks like a Cessna 172 from head on, on the radar screen. In many ways, the B-1B is a much more viable platform than the B-2, and prior to SALTS treaty, the B-1B could carry more than both the B-52 and the B-2.
What you wrote is nothing about the topic, what was argued, the actions what have seen by B-1B…
BTW my concern was how usable in campaign. Even if you put into campaign likely it is too OP in 2D world and unusable in 3D world because of AI issues. -
Yeap guys let’s ease up… what Molni said was right. He didn’t say Hayab model is wrong or bad or he doesn’t want it…
What Molni says is spending time on models that are not going to be used well in Falcon and mostly serve as eyecandy is not that wanted by him (or others) He would prefer the remake of models that r more usable in Falcon.
On the other Hand Molni knows that those new models can operate as triggers for some guys to work on them and better implement them in Falcon example the F-18 / Harrier / SU-27…
So both sides are right both sides r wrong… Molni is more about the core and usage of a model… Also he could make his state like it would be wonderfull if someone could work on this beauty and create a profile for better use of it or AFM or weapons and a pit and maybe Weapons Officer panel etc…
When years pass and u witness the same things over and over then u get more direct and u forget to say the same things more polite and more candy wise… the bottom line is the same. So if u want those statements with flowers please Molni use them and maybe put and a pink ribbon around them… :lol:
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