Multiplayer Connection Issues
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You moved?
Did ISP change?
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One of the guys I fly with has hosted MP flights on one of his computers while connecting himself to another in the same LAN. No issues. I’ll see if I can drag him away from the PS4…
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Wrong version or theater? There are problems other than the network layer.
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If the host is inside the LAN, you can have multiple PCs all connected, some inside the LAN, some outside it.
Id double check the BMS version like Frederf says. I once got so frustrated that I couldnt connect until I realised that the install was an old backup copy I made back on 4.32U4…
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If you want to 100% confirm ports are open, my opinion is that Simple Port Tester is the best tool available. I’ve had other tools tell me my ports are open when they are not. Simple Port Tester works.
DL at Major Geeks: http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/simple_port_tester.html
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Everyone is running 4.32.7. Korea Theater Operations.
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Everyone is running 4.32.7. Korea Theater Operations.
well, to my knowledge, that leaves ports and making sure everyone is pointed at the correct IP address.
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Do you have multiple networking adapters? Older games can have problems by assuming the “priority” adapter instead of trying them all.
Control Panel\Network and Internet\Network Connections
Advanced
Advanced Settings…
Adapters and Bindings (tab)
Connections:You can move adapters up and down this priority list. Is the adapter you want to use on top of this list?
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as Harlequin stated, i have set up server and client PC on local network. forward ports/DMZ to INTERNAL server IP. that is where your friends are connecting. have your friends connect to your external IP.
you need to connect via the INTERNAL IP of the server.
you can test each connection separately. test yourself first, see if you can connect to the server. (via internal IP, this is important)
once successful, have an external party test.
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If you want to 100% confirm ports are open, my opinion is that Simple Port Tester is the best tool available. I’ve had other tools tell me my ports are open when they are not. Simple Port Tester works.
DL at Major Geeks: http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/simple_port_tester.html
I will try this tonight, and see what happens.
Do you have multiple networking adapters? Older games can have problems by assuming the “priority” adapter instead of trying them all.
I do have multiple network adapaters - I run a paid Hamachi network for reasons I will not get into now, and it adds a ‘hamachi network adapater’ to the PC. I will try uninstalling and seeing what happens.
as Harlequin stated, i have set up server and client PC on local network. forward ports/DMZ to INTERNAL server IP. that is where your friends are connecting. have your friends connect to your external IP.
you need to connect via the INTERNAL IP of the server.
Yeah I’m familar with this, and usually this is the way routers work but the jacked up box I got from my ISP (actually brought, from my old house) doesn’t work this way. Instead with the DMZ it assigns the external IP address locally to the DMZ box.
At any rate, everyone has only ever tried using the external address.
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This is likely to be the issue –
“I do have multiple network adapters - I run a paid Hamachi network for reasons I will not get into now, and it adds a ‘hamachi network adapter’ to the PC. I will try uninstalling and seeing what happens.”
Good luck
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I will try this tonight, and see what happens.
I do have multiple network adapaters - I run a paid Hamachi network for reasons I will not get into now, and it adds a ‘hamachi network adapater’ to the PC. I will try uninstalling and seeing what happens.
Yeah I’m familar with this, and usually this is the way routers work but the jacked up box I got from my ISP (actually brought, from my old house) doesn’t work this way. Instead with the DMZ it assigns the external IP address locally to the DMZ box.
At any rate, everyone has only ever tried using the external address.
You can only route 1 UDP client behind 1 public IP. It’s a limitation of the UDP protocol.
Ie if an external client attempts to reach your IP, it will get to the NAT and your firewall config will route that external client to the one you assigned in the Firewall permissions.
That being said the Firewall has no way to know how to route packets destined to the server box vs. your 2nd client sitting behind the NAT.
eg. UDP 2934 incoming from external IP 129.232.123.12 has no way to chose which machine it’s packets are destined for.
TCP has a source/destination info with the packet, so firewalls can route multiple TCP traffic to multiple machines behind 1 IP, but this is not the case for UDP.
It may work at first, or at least seem as though it is. Generally you will experience some clients that can’t see others, and vice-versa. Causes all kinds of wierd stuff.
Using a VPN creates 2 virtual IPs which the UDP traffic can follow, so there’s no confusion where the packet is supposed to be routed to and from.
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Khronik, if I’m understanding correctly, first, Falcon operates on TCP not UDP so it shouldn’t be a problem. But second, with a dedicated host, I only need data routed to one IP behind the router.
At any rate I am apparently a glutton for punishment because I won’t give up.
I re-ordered the priority of the adapters, and I got no change.
I removed the hamaci adapater and software from the pc, and I got no change.
I turned off IPV6 protocols on all of those (I didn’t even know they were on) and I got no change.I download and ran simple port test on ports 2934-2937 on TCP and UDP and it says they are ALLLL open. I don’t know what else to try now.
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Excuse me for about a week, please. I am going to travel around the country and kill three people who all had the wrong IP address.
:wfish:
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Only 1 PC could connect, but not both. I searched in these forums, and found that only 1 PC can run Falcon under 1 external IP.
This statement is not correct.
The only time there is a problem is if the Host Sets “block dubious connections”.
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Khronik, if I’m understanding correctly, first, Falcon operates on TCP not UDP so it shouldn’t be a problem. But second, with a dedicated host, I only need data routed to one IP behind the router.
False, Falcon uses UDP exclusively for MP connection… TCP may be used for IVC, not sure.
I’ve never opened a TCP port EVER for Falcon 4.
This statement is not correct.
The only time there is a problem is if the Host Sets “block dubious connections”.
I believe if you are being blocked by dubious connections setting being on, chances are you are not correctly port forwarded.
Not really sure why dubious was allowed to be disabled, but back when I was doing my own testing with Falcon 4 networking as soon as a 2nd client would connect to the local server, the external clients became wonky. Old method to test when things weren’t right was to try to view the logbook of the client, or text typed. If it worked it generally meant you had a good connection to that specific client.
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The way I understand the problem. Someone correct me if I’m wrong…
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Excuse me for about a week, please. I am going to travel around the country and kill three people who all had the wrong IP address.
:wfish:
OMG carry on
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Excuse me for about a week, please. I am going to travel around the country and kill three people who all had the wrong IP address.
:wfish:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Sometimes, the problem is between the Martin-Baker and the ICP :mrgreen:
As an occasional programmer, I’m sure you had yourself a few facepalm moments when coding, didnt you ?
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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Sometimes, the problem is between the Martin-Baker and the ICP :mrgreen:
As an occasional programmer, I’m sure you had yourself a few facepalm moments when coding, didnt you ?
Occasional? I think I’m insulted! Also my boss would be very very unhappy…
But yes, that happened to me yesterday with some messy date formatting on a graph.
What kills me is that I asked them all at least six times to check the IP address, and they all said it was good.
Today I demanded screenshots, and when the first guy wouldn’t send it, and then suddenly was able to connect I jumped straight to the third guy who sent me a screenshot, but then admitted he just saw his mistake. What’s amazing is that one guy in Maine me one guy in Canada and one guy in Georgia ALL made the same mistake.