China have third airport named bai shan changbaishan airport at the border
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Nah, you guys have it wrong. Molni is just being himself. He managed to point out for xxxxxx time that DB is off. Cheers.
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maybe we can introduce a new thread, “who cares problem”
Also the things that Renard called can be put into “Iff you could have one thing in the next update it would be” find here https://www.benchmarksims.org/forum/showthread.php?16553-Iff-you-could-have-one-thing-in-the-next-update-it-would-be
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gents, be a little realistic
first there is no way a simulation can be accurate at 100% to real life for the simple fact that real life is very dynamic and simulation is as dynamic as the number of updates and the number of coders/developpers working on it.
IRL, new airports are built, old ones are closed, train station are moved from one place to another one. Notams notifies radio navigation aids problem, real navaids frequencies changes all the time. we have no such thing in a simulation.
even if we had, it would be fully realistic for only the first 24 hours, then it would be outdated.knowing that you can perfectly understand the priority system we have to deal with.
if you can’t, well you will be eternaly insatisfied.furthermore, what would bring changing the name from Fukuoka to kadena?
1. tactically, nothing
2. strategically: nothing
3. immersion: bad thing, the name frag would remain kadena and then you’d complain because Fukuoka would call kadena on the radio
the important thing is that we have an active airbase in Japan that is tactically and strategically necessary, whatever its namewhat would adding an airport in china in current korea?
1. tactically: nothing - especially not a large civil airport
2. strategically: same
3. immersion …. how often does the majority here fly from the two chinese airbase?you have no idea what it takes to add other airbase in current korea, we would rather concentrate on making the tactically and strategically important ones looking more like their real counterparts
so priorities gents indeed !!
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@molnibalage I consider this as a important issue because BMS is a combat flight simulator.
You said that 1000 of things have higher priority than this,yes,you are right,but deal with these things are harder than fix a name problem.
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Changing name is not hard. Adding a real functional airbase even just using stock models is quite hard… Creating a totally new functional airbase is even harder. As we have explained it is even questionable why should be added the new airport…
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…. Why don’t deal simple problem first?
Not so simple ….
@Red:
…… the name frag would remain kadena and then you’d complain because Fukuoka would call kadena on the radio …
This alone makes it hard. Yes you can change the name on the map or in the docs. But you can’t change (easily) the name on the radio. And when you do (edit/splice a new name/voice in) sounds (very) unrealistic. IMHO.
For some ‘easy’ things, maybe it’s better to leave well enough alone. IOW, we have to accept the fact that we’re going to have ‘selective realism’. Not everyone will be 100% satisfied with the selections …. .
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Yes, I have no idea how can be added new radio calls to sound DB. About 6 years ago once I found a tool but I did not kept. So far I have never was able to find that tool again.
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Yes, I have no idea how can be added new radio calls to sound DB. About 6 years ago once I found a tool but I did not kept. So far I have never was able to find that tool again.
http://pan.baidu.com/s/1ntigfpR
I found this tool for you to make korea theater more precise.
https://www.mediafire.com/?sg9dmj58x0xr22a here is the voice.
If you need a male voice,I could record it.
I know western guys all have a straight tongue. lol
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@Red:
gents, be a little realistic
first there is no way a simulation can be accurate at 100% to real life for the simple fact that real life is very dynamic and simulation is as dynamic as the number of updates and the number of coders/developpers working on it.
IRL, new airports are built, old ones are closed, train station are moved from one place to another one. Notams notifies radio navigation aids problem, real navaids frequencies changes all the time. we have no such thing in a simulation.
even if we had, it would be fully realistic for only the first 24 hours, then it would be outdated.knowing that you can perfectly understand the priority system we have to deal with.
if you can’t, well you will be eternaly insatisfied.furthermore, what would bring changing the name from Fukuoka to kadena?
1. tactically, nothing
2. strategically: nothing
3. immersion: bad thing, the name frag would remain kadena and then you’d complain because Fukuoka would call kadena on the radio
the important thing is that we have an active airbase in Japan that is tactically and strategically necessary, whatever its namewhat would adding an airport in china in current korea?
1. tactically: nothing - especially not a large civil airport
2. strategically: same
3. immersion …. how often does the majority here fly from the two chinese airbase?you have no idea what it takes to add other airbase in current korea, we would rather concentrate on making the tactically and strategically important ones looking more like their real counterparts
so priorities gents indeed !!
and the need for addon that really make sensethe ATC voice of greek theater is terrible ,why don’t they use meaningless but nice voice?
After translated all place name into Chinese, I found that mandumi tower does not exist any more in real world.
This is nothing on tactics and strategy ?
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Not so simple ….
This alone makes it hard. Yes you can change the name on the map or in the docs. But you can’t change (easily) the name on the radio. And when you do (edit/splice a new name/voice in) sounds (very) unrealistic. IMHO.
For some ‘easy’ things, maybe it’s better to leave well enough alone. IOW, we have to accept the fact that we’re going to have ‘selective realism’. Not everyone will be 100% satisfied with the selections … .
Adding one word would sound unrealistic. I have to admit, the idea of a sound mod that replaces all the default radio chatter entirely appeals to me. Seems like it would be a lot of recording though - and you would need a lot of people to get in on it. That last part is probably the biggest thing stopping that from happening - with the second biggest stumbling block being familiarity with the existing voices.
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In ITO we made a compromise, and replaced the airbases names, it sounds a bit weird because the voice is completely different. But that was the price to pay so that you will have the real name.
We did however recorded an entire new ATC voice for the Hebrew ATC. And it was a painstaking work, it took a few days to get all the fragments recorded, and another few weeks to cut everything and put into place.
And the ATC voice has less fragments then say a Pilot voice.So not changing names is a small price to pay in order to avoid different radio calls.
maybe, one day BMS will decide to do a complete replacement of all the voice comms in the game.
a project that will require número use voice actors, and many months of work. So don’t hold your breath for this to happen very soon. -
… or will use synthesised voice frags.
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Currently I’m building my own theater and I have to say it’s very tough to do some easy task. Making sure everything is lined up correctly. Looking back it makes you appreciate all the theater makers here since it does suck up a huge amount of time.
As for adding or changing names you can always change your BMS DB. I don’t think that would affect other people if you are want to make your only sim more realistic.
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Currently I’m building my own theater and I have to say it’s very tough to do some easy task. Making sure everything is lined up correctly. Looking back it makes you appreciate all the theater makers here since it does suck up a huge amount of time.
As for adding or changing names you can always change your BMS DB. I don’t think that would affect other people if you are want to make your only sim more realistic.
For text, yes.
For spoken names, altering the DB is not enough.