The 7=11 Navigation Method
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Hi Buster,
Thank you so much for this method. It makes things (especially navigation much easier.
Have a great day and fly safe.
Regards,
Tweety -
Thanks! If you need any help or want custom INI stuff for instance for other theatres, let me know or PM me.
Safe Skies!
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Hi Buster,
no, thank you. So tonight is Hobby-Night and I will implement all the necessary data and give it a try.
Thanks for the offer, but so fare mostly Iām flying in the KTO, due to some more realistic radio commands with the tower and a shorter distance to the target
Have a great day and I let you if it worked out, which I donāt doubt.
Fly safe and aim high,
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I will also try thatā¦. Thank you
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Tried it. NICE!
But a few hickups. No problems though. This should be added to the next up date. Easy enough to do. Should be a good and easy implimentation.
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hickups? please do tellā¦. I tested it to be āperfectā before posting so if there is anything I missed? And it is an idea to tweak to your own liking. It is basically tying together three already available systems to provide you with an excellent SA on navigation. Without losing sight of the SAMās, flightplan, pre-planned steerpoints and precision steerpoints.
Any Qās - PM
Thanks guys for the support on this idea -
The files and info provided are for KTO. Any other theatres, make them yourself or if you need help let me know.
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Tried it. NICE!
But a few hickups. No problems though. This should be added to the next up date. Easy enough to do. Should be a good and easy implimentation.
That would require a number of users to strip it back out of the next update.
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hickups? please do tellā¦. I tested it to be āperfectā before posting so if there is anything I missed? And it is an idea to tweak to your own liking. It is basically tying together three already available systems to provide you with an excellent SA on navigation. Without losing sight of the SAMās, flightplan, pre-planned steerpoints and precision steerpoints.
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Thanks guys for the support on this ideaHa ha
My hickups. Got it to go though. Great!
@BW,
I dont think it would be that intensive to impliment. If anything, you still have to set up your DTC but you could still get the HSD info. Dont see that as a big issue.
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Ha ha
My hickups. Got it to go though. Great!
@BW,
I dont think it would be that intensive to impliment. If anything, you still have to set up your DTC but you could still get the HSD info. Dont see that as a big issue.
I think it would be quite easy for the devs to implement it in the sim. That said, I personally would not want my sim set up that way, and would have to go ahead and revert those changes if an update applied them for me.
The entire thing is just DTC settings so I am not sure what you mean by āgetting HSD infoā.
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The tread is about the 7=11 nav method. Please donāt hijack the subject.
It is NOT about ājust DTC settingsā. Read the article, watch the vids.
Using the DTC to get this result is a means to an end. The DTC is a tool. The goal is to aid SA and a quick way to navigate to alternates with the correct tower frequency. All at your fingertips with existing and available tools (PPTās, steerpoints, UHF frequency banks).
Again, read the article, try it out, and then provide feedback or PM me if there anybody has any questions or needs help with this.
The āmethodā I promote here is using existing tools in BMS to give a pilot the three things I mention in the article.
It is about tying together PPTās, UHF freqās, and (precision)steerpoints to greatly enhance the navigational options a pilot has. -
The tread is about the 7=11 nav method.Please donāt hijack the subject.
If a user makes a comment in the thread suggesting it become default as part of BMS, I reserve the right to comment my opinion on their suggestion, so long as the post made is not violating forum rules. Hence āforaā, no?
It is NOT about ājust DTC settingsā. Read the article, watch the vids.
I read the article through several times trying to āgetā what it is that is revolutionary about it. Watched the video (first one), too. Maybe its just that its not something the average BMS user thinks about? Thus far it appears to just be setting your DTC intelligently. I went so far as questioning the part I seem to be missing, about āgetting HSD infoā. You then accuse me of hijacking the subject.
Using the DTC to get this result is a means to an end. The DTC is a tool. The goal is to aid SA and a quick way to navigate to alternates with the correct tower frequency. All at your fingertips with existing and available tools (PPTās, steerpoints, UHF frequency banks).
Again, read the article, try it out, and then provide feedback or PM me if there anybody has any questions or needs help with this.
The āmethodā I promote here is using existing tools in BMS to give a pilot the three things I mention in the article.
It is about tying together PPTās, UHF freqās, and (precision)steerpoints to greatly enhance the navigational options a pilot has.Okay, the DTC is a tool, got itā¦ but it is one which is already being used by quite a few people.
You have a method, and it apparently works for you. Thats GREAT. seriously. Its also great that you are sharing it. Loads of people can probably benefit from it.
The only part I take issue with, is the suggestion (NOT made by you) that it be implemented as the default DTC setting for BMS. Is that a little clearer?
EDIT: as long as I have you here, I might as well question why you have each steerpoint added twice, once in the STPTs 01-24 range, and once in the STPTs 56-70 range? Seems like it would be less system clutter to have them just the once, no?
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To answer your question about the steerpoints: yes I added them twice. The demonstration I made has all the alternates in there, all the PPTās and all the frequencies. Therefore, the precision steerpoints are 11 through 24. The PPTās are all in there in steerpoints 56-70. You can tweak this idea to suit your needs. You can only put in 5 alternate airbases for example.
But for demonstration purposes I put them all in there. my video āoperational demonstrationā (vid 2) shows this. Why? Well:
1. The steerpoints are there to access when needed, you can flip through them and see which one is closest and find the corresponding frequency quickly.
2. The PPTās are in there so your HSD will show the alternate location in relevance to your position and attitude.
3. Added benefit is that you can make your HSD the active MFD, slew the cursor and TMSup and select the alternate that way. This will result in selecting a PPT, say steerpoint 56, and finding the tower frequency.7=11. Steerpoint 11 is equal to UHF 7.
From a PPT point of view: 56=7. steerpoint 56 is equal to UHF 7.You can tweak this to your own liking: put in only the PPTās, or only the steerpoints. You can do what you want with it.
I hope pilots can use it and benefit from it.
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Hey āBusterā,
I adapted this slightly but the principle of getting to a friendly base, and talking to the tower, when you need to with minimum of fuss was a āEurekaā moment and I am very grateful you shared this with the wider community - good work mate !!!
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Haha yes itās Poppy, but I had this name on BMS forums before and I havenāt been able to change it yet
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knew that ;0)
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I wonder who this Ironman53rd is?
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Tried it. NICE!
But a few hickups. No problems though. This should be added to the next up date. Easy enough to do. Should be a good and easy implimentation.
Again @BW,
No where did I say to add this as ādefaultā. In fact, you can disable it quite easily. I have anproblem when people put words into my posts that simply arnt there. -
I find it inpossible to reconcile your words across your posts, but it seems I have either misconstrued your meaning, or you think it simple to add and remove. Either way I suggest that in deference to Poppyās/Busterās wishes, if you wish to discuss this further, we take it to PM.
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Again @BW,
No where did I say to add this as ādefaultā. In fact, you can disable it quite easily. I have anproblem when people put words into my posts that simply arnt there.Perhaps you should explain then, how exactly BMS would implement this in the next release, but not by default.
The only way it could be implemented by the BMS team, since you can already do all of these things yourself, would be by default. As far as I can tell with your posts, nobody is placing words in your mouth.