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    Newbie - Getting "Falcon BMS has stopper working" error message

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      Poacherinthezoo last edited by

      Hello,

      After much reading, I finally pulled the trigger and got Falcon BMS 4.33 and ordered a suitable joystick. After installing the program and all updates without any issues (thanks to the extremely helpful thread) I fired up BMS 4.33 to see how it would run on my less-than-stellar computer. It ran without issue other than being painfully slow - literally 5+ seconds of lag between inputting a key command and it occurring on screen during flight. So I looked at the graphics settings to see if I could reduce some texture or shadows or something in an effort to get rid of the lag. No such luck.

      But then, after a few more short lag-filled flights to get a general sense for the sim, it stopped working entirely. I can launch the program just fine, but as soon as I select a mission, it immediately goes black and I get a “program stopped working” error message.

      I’m not good with computers to begin with, and I’m completely clueless as to where to start checking to fix the problem. Any input is GREATLY appreciated.

      Thanks in advance.

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        Cloud 9 last edited by

        Post your system specs please, i.e., OS, CPU, GPU, amount of RAM, etc.

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          Poacherinthezoo @Cloud 9 last edited by

          Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit)
          Intel® Core™i3 CPU [email protected] GHz, 2.39 GHz
          RAM: 4.00 GB
          Intel® HD Graphics

          I’m aware that I’m a bit below what is recommended, but wanted to try the sim out to see if it was something I wanted to start investing in - in which case I would switch to my desktop and upgrade as required.

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            Cloud 9 @Poacherinthezoo last edited by

            Yeah, it’s the Intel Graphics holding you up. But, maybe we can work around it. Is it a straight chipset or is it a Graphics card that you can identify?

            Anyway in the meantime, go into your User/Config folder and delete the dx9display.dsp file.

            Then reboot BMS, the file will regenerate.

            See if it still gets stuck.

            C9

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              Poacherinthezoo @Cloud 9 last edited by

              Thank you - deleted the dx9display file and I’m no longer having the issue with the program crashing - and the lag is much more ‘manageable’ at ~1 second or less now. Not sure on the graphics card at the moment - I will look into this (sorry, not good with computers so I will need to consult with some more knowledgeable people). Anything else I can do as a work-around in the meantime to get a feel for if this is something I want to peruse head-on or peruse more casually (i.e. removing shadows, e3D texture, etc.) ?

              Thanks again for the help!

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                Cloud 9 @Poacherinthezoo last edited by

                For now, I’d turn off all Shaders in the BMS Configuration.

                In game, go to Setup>Graphics and see what it says under Video Card, if anything. I’d also uncheck Multisampling while you’re there.

                To see specifically what you have graphics wise, you can go into Control Panels>Hardware and Sound>Device Manager. Under Display Adapters(open it by clicking once on the arrow), there it will show what is on your rig. We can go from there.

                At least you got it going somewhat!!

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                  Guest @Cloud 9 last edited by

                  Would it be safe to say that ANY graphics card would do wonders for the sim? I know there’s issues with GPUs at the moment with the mining craze…. so maybe old GPUs from eBay or craigslist or Facebook might work? Anything’s better than the built-in GPU! 🙂

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                    Poacherinthezoo @Guest last edited by

                    All it has listed under “Display Adapters” is “Intel® HD Graphics.”

                    I turned off all shading as suggested and now there is no appreciable lag between my inputs and a response. MASSIVE improvement!

                    I’ll have to locate my desktop (can’t seem find anything since I moved) and see what it has in it. I know it has less RAM (2GB’s) than my laptop, but it does have an actual graphics card.

                    Thanks for all the help! Your help has taken me from completely unusable to usable!

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                      Cloud 9 @Poacherinthezoo last edited by

                      @Poacherinthezoo:

                      All it has listed under “Display Adapters” is “Intel® HD Graphics.”

                      I turned off all shading as suggested and now there is no appreciable lag between my inputs and a response. MASSIVE improvement!

                      I’ll have to locate my desktop (can’t seem find anything since I moved) and see what it has in it. I know it has less RAM (2GB’s) than my laptop, but it does have an actual graphics card.

                      Thanks for all the help! Your help has taken me from completely unusable to usable!

                      Yeah, that’s a chipset. Even though the other computer may have a GFX card, you really don’t want to run BMS with a rig that only has 2Gigs of RAM……you’re better off right now sticking with the rig you have running now with 4Gigs of RAM and trying to get an inexpensive GFX card.

                      No problem. Cheers,

                      C9

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                        Shadow @Cloud 9 last edited by

                        @Cloud:

                        Yeah, that’s a chipset. Even though the other computer may have a GFX card, you really don’t want to run BMS with a rig that only has 2Gigs of RAM……you’re better off right now sticking with the rig you have running now with 4Gigs of RAM and trying to get an inexpensive GFX card.

                        No problem. Cheers,

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                        Its a laptop so no GFX card possable.

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                          Guest @Shadow last edited by

                          External GPU?

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                            Shadow @Guest last edited by

                            @-Ice:

                            External GPU?

                            :munch:

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                              Cloud 9 @Shadow last edited by

                              @Shadow:

                              Its a laptop so no GFX card possable.

                              Yes, I see, I read his earlier post wrong and didn’t notice in his last post it was the other way around!!

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                                Shadow @Cloud 9 last edited by

                                Not much He can do but rebuild His Desk Top.

                                Except reduce tree & grass slider.
                                Turn off all Shadows/Shaders. Try to leave Per-Pixel Lighting.
                                Use Lower Resolution ( Less then Native)
                                Stay away from Campaign.
                                Zero Multi Sampling.

                                Rebuild Desktop.

                                People Here will help you find cheap or second-hand parts. Tell us what in the tower case now. Use a torch and actually look inside.

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