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      Marcq12 last edited by

      Man!! That would be easy to make
      http://www.hyperactivz.com/f-35-jet-fighter

      Marc…

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      • Blu3wolf
        Blu3wolf last edited by

        not so easy to program avionics without some help though.

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        • Snail
          Snail @Blu3wolf last edited by

          Gripen E-style 🙂

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          • starrats
            starrats last edited by

            I read the part about “F35 has internal cannon, which F16 certainly does not have”

            Is "internal cannon a separate type? Because, we all know there is a cannon inside F16, this must be just terminology I don’t know.

            Lots of cool pit work to do , and not enough pit workers.

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            • Snail
              Snail @starrats last edited by

              If only the avionics in BMS were made modular, to allow different cockpit artists to make real dedicated cockpits. Maybe in 3, 4 weeks 😉

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              • Raptor
                Raptor @Snail last edited by

                A cockpit might be in the works… 🙂

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                • NIL
                  NIL @Raptor last edited by

                  You are teasing us Raptor… Keep it up… 😄

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                  • Migbuster
                    Migbuster @starrats last edited by

                    @starrats:

                    I read the part about “F35 has internal cannon, which F16 certainly does not have”

                    Is "internal cannon a separate type? Because, we all know there is a cannon inside F16, this must be just terminology I don’t know.

                    No……Just another lazy half arsed aviation article!

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                    • Stevie
                      Stevie Banned @Migbuster last edited by

                      @Migbuster:

                      No……Just another lazy half arsed aviation article!

                      Actually, the USAF version of the F-35 is the only variant that has an internal cannon - the USMC and USN versions have an external gun pod…and while the USMC may have actually bought gun pods, I haven’t read or heard anything of the USN doing so. So the article is accurate…to it’s point.

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                      • starrats
                        starrats @Stevie last edited by

                        I like that Gripen pit…. a lot!

                        But on that f35 article it was saying there is no (internal)cannon in F16, in one of the comparisons.

                        I knew the B version of f35 had no gun , but the other Navy version was news to me, what caught me by surprise though was the F16 statement.

                        I thought it was some terms I am not familiar with. Because why even write a comparison article if you don’t know if the F16 has a cannon or not?

                        Also may be a bad translation , or just piffle for some reason.

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                        • Migbuster
                          Migbuster @Stevie last edited by

                          @Stevie:

                          Actually, the USAF version of the F-35 is the only variant that has an internal cannon - the USMC and USN versions have an external gun pod…and while the USMC may have actually bought gun pods, I haven’t read or heard anything of the USN doing so. So the article is accurate…to it’s point.

                          The article is not correct……here is the (very poor) text he is referring to:

                          How does the F-35A compare to the F-16? Well, not only does the F-35A come with an internal cannon which the F-16 certainly does not have, but also, the F-35A will be stealthier and include more fuel efficiency than the F-16. The F-35A also ranks high in survivability, especially with the addition of an internal cannon that can be used in difficult situations.

                          So correct that F-35A has an internal gun but - totally false regarding in service F-16s unless he just happened to be doing all research based on the F-16N or one of the YF-16s because that is as far as gunless F-16s went AFAIK.

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                            Frederf @Migbuster last edited by

                            The F-16 didn’t have an internal cannon? There are a heck of a lot more A models than B and C. There were going to be a lot of C’s as well (1200 / 300 / 700?) but the USN cut back.

                            The -16 and -35 seem very similar: lots of international cooperation, new technology, combined task design, etc. $116M is almost certainly too low for the cost of the B model while hopefully the A gets closer to 80 than 100. And the program cost is 9-16T not including maintenance? I think that’s off by a factor of ten. I’ve heard total program cost

                            This feels like it was written by an automatic article algorithm.

                            The A-16 didn’t have a (30mm?) internal cannon and had to be pod-mounted. The pod sucked so there isn’t an F-16 and an A-16 like there is an F-18 and an A-18 (aka F/A-18).

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                            • Blu3wolf
                              Blu3wolf @Frederf last edited by

                              I was under the impression there was not an F-18 that is separate to the F/A-18. Wiki reckons there was originally going to be an F-18 and an A-18, which were the same hardware but different software, and that during development they combined the two into the same aircraft, which became the F/A-18.

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                              • Stevie
                                Stevie Banned @Migbuster last edited by

                                @Migbuster:

                                The article is not correct……here is the (very poor) text he is referring to:

                                How does the F-35A compare to the F-16? Well, not only does the F-35A come with an internal cannon which the F-16 certainly does not have, but also, the F-35A will be stealthier and include more fuel efficiency than the F-16. The F-35A also ranks high in survivability, especially with the addition of an internal cannon that can be used in difficult situations.

                                So correct that F-35A has an internal gun but - totally false regarding in service F-16s unless he just happened to be doing all research based on the F-16N or one of the YF-16s because that is as far as gunless F-16s went AFAIK.

                                …ok. To the OP’s point, then.

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                                  ddoc @Migbuster last edited by

                                  @Migbuster:

                                  The article is not correct……here is the (very poor) text he is referring to:

                                  How does the F-35A compare to the F-16? Well, not only does the F-35A come with an internal cannon which the F-16 certainly does not have, but also, the F-35A will be stealthier and include more fuel efficiency than the F-16. The F-35A also ranks high in survivability, especially with the addition of an internal cannon that can be used in difficult situations.

                                  So correct that F-35A has an internal gun but - totally false regarding in service F-16s unless he just happened to be doing all research based on the F-16N or one of the YF-16s because that is as far as gunless F-16s went AFAIK.

                                  I haven’t looked at the article but to me, the snippet you’ve quoted reads as though the author has a dog in the race and it ain’t the viper. With no data, these comparisons are speculative at best, I understand the F-35 program has some difficult problems however, the quote reads like a desperate attempt at justification.

                                  Nowt rang wae a bit ay cynicism, like.

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                                    thereisnotime @ddoc last edited by

                                    i want to start tinkering with a multi display touch screen MFD array. make it usb 3.0 on external power. seems like in the next ten years this will be not only a want, but a need for high end simming.

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                                    • Stevie
                                      Stevie Banned @starrats last edited by

                                      @starrats:

                                      I read the part about “F35 has internal cannon, which F16 certainly does not have”

                                      Is "internal cannon a separate type? Because, we all know there is a cannon inside F16, this must be just terminology I don’t know.

                                      Lots of cool pit work to do , and not enough pit workers.

                                      Only the USAF version of the F-35 has an internally mounted gun/cannon, like the F-16. The USN and USMC variants have an external gun pod which mounts on the centerline station similar to the Hawk/T-45.

                                      Gun and cannon get used interchangeably depending on whom you are talking to and how deep into what they do with armament goes…at some caliber a “gun” is properly referred to as a “cannon”…but I forget just where that point is. There may also be something to do with the way the breach operates too…but in general an aircraft guy may call it a “gun” and an artillery guy (or the maker) may call it a “cannon”.

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