IVC UHF in Left Ear VHF in Right ear

[Spoiler]

anyone doing this or know how??? Simple Radio compatible with BMS?

[razo]

@Spoiler:

anyone doing this or know how??? Simple Radio compatible with BMS?

(Simple Radio is only for DCS. We have IVC here)

[Tiffy]

Pretty sure you can’t do this in BMS … to do it IRL the radio would need to be able to output a radio channel independently to each earphone. Pretty sure it can’t be done in the F-16. Afterall you are monitoring 3 different Radio frequencies in the F-16, UHF, VHF & Guard.

Having done this in the Army, monitoring 2 different radio nets at the same time I can also say that it can be quite difficult especially if you get simultaneous transmissions.

[Eagle-Eye]

@Tiffy:

Afterall you are monitoring 3 different Radio frequencies in the F-16, UHF, VHF & Guard.

Theoretically, you could make that work by having UHF in one ear, VHF in the other, and Guard in both. It becomes harder to do with datalink comms channel added to the mix.

Having done this in the Army, monitoring 2 different radio nets at the same time I can also say that it can be quite difficult especially if you get simultaneous transmissions.

Doesnt that happen now with UHF possibly stepping on VHF, or vice versa? Don’t know if the real jet blocks a radio transmission when the other is active, but I seriously doubt it for the multitude of issues it may cause by not hearing a (possibly urgent) transmission at all.

My personal experience is limited to ArmA 3’s ACRE and TFAR mods, but at least with one ear “assigned” to one radio, you can sort of shift your focus to one side and make out what they’re saying, which you can’t if both radio’s are overlapping in both ears.

[Spoiler]

Let me know if you figure it out would be a nice addition to the SIM with IVC

[Spoiler]

Yes that’s what I was refering to Pretty handy in ARMA ect…

[Dee-Jay]

@Spoiler:

Let me know if you figure it out would be a nice addition to the SIM with IVC

This is not an F-16 feature so I do not think we wil do this. (?)

[Focaldesign]

But soon BAF will get 3D sound system: http://www.f-16.net/f-16-news-article5100.html
So then we’re talking difficult IVC stuff

Belgium has also awarded Terma a contract for the Terma Aircraft Audio Management System (AAMS), which includes our market leading 3D-Audio and noise reduction capabilities.

The advanced communication and situational awareness solution, which has been fielded and combat proven by the Royal Danish Air Force (RDAF) since 2009, provides enhancement of the pilot’s situational awareness, survivability, and reduction of his/her workload by presenting audio warnings/cues and radio messages in a full 360-degree spherical representation. Thereby enabling the pilot to get the dynamically updated warning tone/cue in the true direction of the threat and spatially separating radio communication for increased speech intelligibility. The system also provides Active Noise Reduction (ANR) and Electrical Noise Reduction (ENR) for reduced pilot stress and fatigue.

”The spatial separation of multiple communications will support time-critical radio transmissions much better than the legacy audio configuration, also as we add more radios to the BAF F-16s. With the added dynamic threat cues and noise reduction, the situational awareness and mission effectiveness will greatly increase for our pilots”, says Captain Sébastien D’hondt F-16 Avionics Branch Material Manager, Belgian Air Force.

The Terma AAMS will be installed on a total of 54 BAF F-16s and is consequently the largest F-16 AAMS order to date.

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Accoding to an autobiography (“Kysser Himlen” (“Kissing the Sky”)) by the danish pilot (callsign MET) the Terma AAMS was implemented in RDAF F-16’s with the MLU M5.1 update.

His experience was that the noisereduction in the system made earplugs redundant and, in his own words: “… having UHF in my left ear, and VHF in my right was a pretty nice feature, but it did take some radiocalls to get it integrated in my bio-computer”

[Marvin157th]

I’m not so sure you can do independent channels in each ear in the real jet? One pilot told me quite a while ago that a trick they do is have one channel turned down to help decipher the channels. Depending on what is going on he would turn UHF up at times but generally he had the UHF at about 70% the volume.

[Eagle-Eye]

@Marvin157th:

I’m not so sure you can do independent channels in each ear in the real jet?

That would depend entirely on which type, block, tape and whatnot you’re talking about.
For example, both the Danish and Belgians have F-16A MLU, but the Danish appear to be using AAMS since 2009, while the Belgians are just buying it now… The other EPAF, American, Israeli etc. F-16’s may or may not have this or something similar…

The way I understand the posts above, it appears the AAMS is capable of at least some sort of spatial differentiation with the audio. This could be as simple as separating radio spectra between both ears ( “having UHF in my left ear, and VHF in my right"), as complex as a “7.1 Surround”-like system (“audio warnings/cues and radio messages in a full 360-degree spherical representation”), or it could be somewhere in between, depending on which of the optional features (if any) were acquired.

[Blu3wolf]

@Eagle-Eye:

That would depend entirely on which type, block, tape and tail number you’re talking about.

like everything else F-16 related…. XD

[Raptor]

Just to add that the TERMA ECM/RWR suites that equip part of Viper fleet (MLU’s plus more; ) do have 3D audio feedback directly to pilot helmet audio headset. What is actually doing is increase pilot 3D immersion on the threat quadrant aspect, so pilots is always aware from where a missile is approaching as he maneuvers so to better react in 3D.

Although not the initially asked feature about radios in 3D, this would indeed could be an extra feature request for real world ops to help improve SA and comms.