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    • komurcu
      komurcu last edited by

      Hi all
      i want to buy new SSD Harddisk.
      my computer is HP Pavilion DV7-1040

      if i install falcon on SSD hard disk.
      Is it a performance difference.

      because i have to decreese game options.

      Thanks

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      • Blu3wolf
        Blu3wolf last edited by

        if you install falcon on an SSD, it will load faster.

        I will be HIGHLY surprised if you get better FPS though.

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        • I-Hawk
          I-Hawk @Blu3wolf last edited by

          No you will not see FPS difference. It’ll load faster and there will be less delay when waiting to load textures (e.g if you switch views to some area which the object’s textures aren’t loaded yet) but that’s about it.

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          • Snowman
            Snowman @I-Hawk last edited by

            Confirmed. Ssd will make it load faster and you will be in the pit sooner. No effect on fps to be expected

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            • Shadow
              Shadow @Snowman last edited by

              If you see it load faster Its cause your Original disk (HD) was not setup well. (Or its really old)

              Put the OS on the SSD. And install Falcon to a partition on the front of your mechanical.

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              • Mower
                Mower @Shadow last edited by

                @Shadow:

                If you see it load faster Its cause your Original disk (HD) was not setup well. (Or its really old)

                Put the OS on the SSD. And install Falcon to a partition on the front of your mechanical.

                Yep this is what I do.

                Use Ultimate Defrag, it will put software where you want it on the drive, on the outer rims the rotation speed is faster so access is quicker.

                GOTS…
                FalconAF to FBMS Conversion Guide

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                • Cali
                  Cali @Mower last edited by

                  I’ll just use my SSD

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                  • komurcu
                    komurcu @Cali last edited by

                    but i read
                    we can ssd harddisk for increase virtual memory
                    so as a result we can speed up fps (i have 2 gb vg card)

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                    • Shadow
                      Shadow @Cali last edited by

                      @Cali:

                      I’ll just use my SSD

                      Good for you Cali, But the poster asked

                      “if i install falcon on SSD hard disk.
                      Is it a performance difference.”

                      He is on a Core2Duo Laptop of unknown speed with ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650 (M96) with 1024 MB or ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4530 (M92) with 512 MB or Intel GMA 4700MHD (UMA) with shared video memory.

                      Looks like it will carry two HDs But for a performance increase a SSD aint going to do much.

                      Komurcu what are the other specs.

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                        haukka81 @Shadow last edited by

                        SSD will eliminate microstutters and it will load faster. But no more FPS

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                        • Blu3wolf
                          Blu3wolf @haukka81 last edited by

                          @haukka81:

                          SSD will eliminate microstutters and it will load faster. But no more FPS

                          Stuttering caused by HDD loading will be eliminated. If your drivers cause it, then it will not help at all.

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                          • Gyro
                            Gyro @haukka81 last edited by

                            If you want better FPS lose some of the ground clutter by the level of detail slider in the setup options. Trees and fences disappear moving from 6 to 5 that improves it. Losing some of the shadow effects also improves it in the shaders in config editor.

                            All an SSD does is gives you the magic 7.9 data transfer rate for hard drives in the MS windows experience. Plus at the time of writing this the max size of SSD is limited to 160GB so backup drives are recommended. As for the Hybrids, so far Ive installed 20 and had to replace 2 due to heat failures so make sure the drives mounted where it will keep cool.

                            This is advice, take it or leave it.

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                            • komurcu
                              komurcu @Gyro last edited by

                              thanks to all
                              but i confused lot

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                              • ASharpe
                                ASharpe @Gyro last edited by

                                @Gyro:

                                Plus at the time of writing this the max size of SSD is limited to 160GB so backup drives are recommended.

                                And at the time of this writing, plus 365 Days I’ve had a 260 GB SSD installed in my computer.

                                And, at the time of this writing, if you don’t want to take my word for it, Amazon has bundles of them all the way up to 1 TB.

                                @Gyro:

                                All an SSD does is gives you the magic 7.9 data transfer rate for hard drives in the MS windows experience.

                                Also completely flash. SSD drives store memory as flash instead of on a mechanical drive. This means that there is no disc spinning (IE: Mechanical Work) to access the data. Also, the drives are much more stable and much less error prone. This leads to a dramatically faster read time from the disc then on an old mechanical drive, and reduces the risk of failure due to either errors or a mechanical failure. Not that you should be dropping these drives, as they can still get damaged, they will absorb shock damage much better then other drives (including hybrids).

                                Note that I specifically called out read times - write times can vary. As the disks are usually an array of flash memory chips, most (good) SSDs will have internal software for handling the writing of the data in order to ensure that it wears all of the chips evenly, where a mechanical drive will simply write it in the first place that it can. Which is why you shouldn’t defrag a solid state drive. But you should also never need to, as the recall times for data on the drive should be fast enough that you would never notice an improvement from de-fragging. (Except Gyro to claim he has done this 40+ times on 400+ of his home machines and it ‘dramatically’ improved performance every time. But, as we’ve already proven twice in this thread, he’s clearly just lying.)

                                Seriously, stop making shit up.

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                                • komurcu
                                  komurcu @ASharpe last edited by

                                  so as a result
                                  I should not get it
                                  am i right or not ?

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                                    haukka81 @komurcu last edited by

                                    Get it, it wont harm but you wont get FPS (least so much that you can notice.

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                                    • komurcu
                                      komurcu @haukka81 last edited by

                                      thanks all

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                                        Agave_Blue @haukka81 last edited by

                                        @haukka81:

                                        Get it, it wont harm but you wont get FPS (least so much that you can notice.

                                        Agree. I definetly notice a difference in load speeds for Windows and F4 BMS, which are both on my small(ish) SDD.

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                                        • Icarus
                                          Icarus @Gyro last edited by

                                          @Gyro:

                                          Plus at the time of writing this the max size of SSD is limited to 160GB ……

                                          What?

                                          1 TB internal SSD right here: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147251

                                          System Specs:

                                          Main: i7-3930K @ 4.0 GHz, 32Gb Corsair 2133-DDR3 RAM, RTX 2080ti, 1Tb Samsung SSD + 5x Samsung SSD's, 1.0KW Corsair PSU, SB Fatal1ty Recon3D Professional, Sennheiser PC360, 30" Dell LED/24" Acer LED, Corsair K70, Cougar MFDs, Cougar FSSB-R2 + WH grip, TUSBA TQS + CubPilot HALL mod, 4x CH MFP's, BU036A, BU036X, TrackIR5 + DelanClip, Simpeds, Gametrix KW-908 Jetseat + Buttkicker Gamer2, 3rd Space vest.

                                          Secondary: 2x 19" LED, 2x 8" VGA, 2x 7" USB, 14" LED, MFDE.

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                                          • Shadow
                                            Shadow @Shadow last edited by

                                            @Shadow:

                                            …… the poster asked

                                            “if i install falcon on SSD hard disk.
                                            Is it a performance difference.”

                                            He is on a Core2Duo Laptop of unknown speed with ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650 (M96) with 1024 MB or ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4530 (M92) with 512 MB or Intel GMA 4700MHD (UMA) with shared video memory.

                                            Looks like it will carry two HDs But for a performance increase a SSD aint going to do much.

                                            Or a 2 GHz AMD Turion X2 Dual-Core Mobile Processor RM-70 with ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3450 Graphics

                                            Komurcu what are the other specs.

                                            He is on a Old Laptop (HP Pavilion DV7-1040) but Komurcu hasn’t stated which Model.

                                            Upgrade your Memory.
                                            Upgrade to Win7
                                            Upgrade your HD

                                            Better still build a Lo cost Desktop PC or even a second-hand/Used Desktop would run Falcon better.

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