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      Leech @eurybaric last edited by

      @eurybaric:

      JFS uses fuel?

      JFS receives fuel at all times regardless of the MASTER fuel switch position.

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        Blu3wolf @Leech last edited by

        actually, the JFS does not receive fuel when the tanks are empty.

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          LorikEolmin @Blu3wolf last edited by

          But the tanks aren’t empty when there’s fuel in them.

          Everything you need to know and links in my Youtube channel, "About" section.

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          • Shadow
            Shadow @Mav-jp last edited by

            @Mav-jp:

            At 600lbs you can air restart no problem I think

            No radio ? Why did the EPU not start ?

            By the time I was flame out I was only a few miles out and less then a 1000ft offset, my alt at around 2000ft. I didn’t think I would have made the overhead break. So I decided.

            I tried the radio to call emergency & got no options, no idea. I had to quickly bank left and line up, get gear down, bleed more speed as I spotted the A-10.

            I was at the lazy end of a few flights, lost my wingman twice to flack. I just wanted a drink. A double even. :drink:

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              Mav-jp @Shadow last edited by

              @Shadow:

              By the time I was flame out I was only a few miles out and less then a 1000ft offset, my alt at around 2000ft. I didn’t think I would have made the overhead break. So I decided.

              I tried the radio to call emergency & got no options, no idea. I had to quickly bank left and line up, get gear down, bleed more speed as I spotted the A-10.

              I was at the lazy end of a few flights, lost my wingman twice to flack. I just wanted a drink. A double even. :drink:

              If you have time , just switch tower and call for emergency that would make it 🙂

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                Shadow @Mav-jp last edited by

                @Mav-jp:

                If you have time , just switch tower and call for emergency that would make it 🙂

                Didn’t have the time and landed with a tail wind. hence dogging the A-10 coming head on.

                I should have already been on with the tower, I was lazy & hungry. No packed lunch.

                How long does it take for the EPU to kick in? 10sec?

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                  Leech @Blu3wolf last edited by

                  @Blu3wolf:

                  actually, the JFS does not receive fuel when the tanks are empty.

                  Really ?

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                  • gza036
                    gza036 @Shadow last edited by

                    Welcome to the 4.34 Low fuel negative-G flameout club
                    It works the other way as well. I ran the tanks completely empty as a test, was watching the bingo DED page. The tanks ran dry at -800 lbs. 800 below zero 😄

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                      Blu3wolf @gza036 last edited by

                      Sorry Leech, couldn’t help myself… It’s such imperative language - the JFS receives fuel at all times… And yet I can’t fault you, as it’s not your wording…

                      It’s somewhat concerning if the totaliser in BMS can’t distinguish between 600lbs and -800lbs…

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                        eurybaric @Blu3wolf last edited by

                        Man for some reason I had it in my head that JFS was compressed air -> rotating main jet. I just read up on what it is and feel stupid about that assumption.

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                          Blu3wolf @eurybaric last edited by

                          Don’t be. For whatever reason, it’s a common assumption.

                          There is compressed gas in the system, in the accumulators. They just provide the pressure to start the JFS, of course - which in turn starts the engine, when it’s declutched from the accessory drive gearbox.

                          They also provide working pressure to the hydraulic systems.

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                            SoBad @Shadow last edited by

                            Yep. I made a moderate turn into final w/ 900lbs and flamed out.

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