Flight model comparation - BMS F16 Falcon DCS F16 Viper
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Silly attitude, when given time DCS could become a better simulator in which you might want a decent F-16 flight model.
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Beakerrrrrrrrrrr hi where are you what is going on with seven g pls reply are you close? Do you know anything? Pm me pls if you want ,I remember your model and your contibution but I haven’t heard you about 10 years.
sorry if I hijack the thread. But this is an opportunity in a life time
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Silly attitude, when given time DCS could become a better simulator in which you might want a decent F-16 flight model.
Sorry I’m not a member of the “DCS cause”, so I don’t care as I don’t intend to fly it, ever. I know it can’t be ever what BMS is, so why to bother?
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Given time means never to my eyes. It’s ok for aerobatics .But I think he is wise enough to know this.
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Silly attitude, when given time DCS could become a better simulator in which you might want a decent F-16 flight model.
Only problem in many areas player have already waited 10+ years since DCS brand exist and for dyn. campaign we waited almost 20 years…
Yes, they promised for Lock On. -
Revientor, Could the scenarios be improved to? Like this?
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Hm, you guys compare a Flight Model, developed for many years to a specific flight model which is currently WIP……
Far too early to do something like this in a serious way. -
Correct. But so far, almost everything is wrong. Next update will show what can be expected.
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And BTW, BMS FM/FLCS has not been developed during 10y. Should ask Jp but something about 2y is more reasonable.
DCS F-16 development started way before the EA release. Considering their work-power, it should not takes more time to get fully completed and tuned. Especially considering the help they have from community and the fact that they can use BMS as reference (HFFM for instance). -
Depends. If they currently optimizing the Flight Model then it may give some insights, if not then the next update says nothing about “what we can expect” it just shows what they finished the last 2 weeks.
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I don’t see it the same way. If in the next update, major/critical things that has been already reported has not been taken in account for some specific points, I am not sure they will in the future. Will see. (C.f. F-5).
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Lets see and wait. I would not blame a Dev Team without deeper knowledge of the inner mechanics.
We dont know the priority lists, we dont know what they are currently working on, we dont know if there are just other things more important currently.
Priority is (as long as its not a crash, then its obvious) a very very subjective topic.
Whats extremely important for you is not as important for others but doesnt mean that it will be ignored in the long run. -
Using a ground speed instead of an airspeed for performances computation is a showstopper. No matter what is important for me.
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your opinion, not right not wrong just an opinion and for that as valid as mine.
From my point of view the biggest mistake is the lack of honest communication, its still in Development after all and not even close to Release.
There are many Topics you didnt know if its at least on the “to be fixed” list or some info about which stuff ist currently in development.
Hey but, to be honest, this is something you can blame the BMS Dev Team also for if you have no closer connection to some of them you have no clue what comes next or which Bugs are adressed to be fixed….Its just more visible and the expectations are higher by ED because of the regular Release Road they have choosen and the Fact that its Payware.
So calm down, take a Cup of Tea and wait, you cant change it anyways.
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Who told you that some are not in connection. Flight simulation world is a small community.
And there is nothing to blame about BMS team as we do not claim that our F-16 is the ultimate benchmark in F-16 flight simulation (so far this is just a fact until you can prove me wrong) we are just claiming that we tend into that direction as much as possible, we have ever never promise anything and you didn’t spent a single cent to download BMS mod for Falcon4. -
And there is nothing to blame about BMS team as we do not claim that our F-16 is the ultimate benchmark in F-16 flight simulation (so far this is just a fact until you can prove me wrong)
LOL
Sometimes I just can’t resist
Dj, you really need to turn 7 times your tongue in your mouth …Do you know the English meaning of BENCHMARK, Like BMS
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Hm, you guys compare a Flight Model, developed for many years to a specific flight model which is currently WIP……
Far too early to do something like this in a serious way.The F-16 flight model is of the VERY LEAST problems that ED has…
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@Red:
LOL
Sometimes I just can’t resist
Dj, you really need to turn 7 times your tongue in your mouth …Do you know the English meaning of BENCHMARK, Like BMS
look it up mateNo no I thought about it. Benchmark Sim is not Benchmark F-16. It is the name of an non official group given lonnnng time ago at a time when there was no other F-16 Sim (so to say except MFS, F-16 Comat Pilot and Fighter Commander)
So I declared myself go for that statement. -
The F-16 flight model is of the VERY LEAST problems that ED has…
Your probably right but thats what this Thread is all about.
@Dee-Jay: im not in connection with you for example so i didnt know what comes next. For sure i know somebody who knows somebody but its a big difference between rumours and a professional statement and thats the point. I dont blame the BMS Team for doing something bad, i just said in terms of communication they are not much better than ED.
Well Ed has at least a Newsletter and share some info without knowing somebody, so one point for ED here.So if my opinion is BMS Team should work on Topic A but they decide to work on Topic B, they can talk about that decicion and hope people will probably understand (but people will find other things to complain about, thats for sure) or at least accept it since they know now that Topic A will be adressed later.
Currently i didnt even say one sim is better than the other. I didnt even say that your findings are wrong or anything like that all i said was thats its too early for this kind of nitpicking and that we dont set priorities for any of the dev teams and that we dont have enough informations to do so.
But it seems like its not possible to talk in a somewhat neutral manner here, since now slowly the bashing of me, that bad person not telling that DCS F-16 is sooooooooooo bad, begins.