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    Falcon Keystrokes vs BMS Keystrokes

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      Denco last edited by

      Evening

      I’m just about to start programing my new joystick and I want to do it the right way. I’ve always used the Falcon Keystrokes because I was familiar with them.

      So should I continue on using them?
      What is the difference between the two?

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        Icarus last edited by

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          Icarus last edited by

          BMS is DX and keystrokes is key presses I believe. DX is superior to keystrokes.

          What joystick do you have?

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            Denco @Icarus last edited by

            X52 no pro.

            I found this profile so I think I’ll try it out since it already has all the things I need programmed in 🙂
            https://www.benchmarksims.org/forum/showthread.php?5855-Saitek-X-52-Profile

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              Agave_Blue @Denco last edited by

              Hard~Deck’s profile is also popular: https://www.benchmarksims.org/forum/showthread.php?7909-Saitek-X-52-Profile

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                Denco @Agave_Blue last edited by

                I’m going to try them both 🙂

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                  Denco @Denco last edited by

                  Hmm, I dislike both profiles and will rather do one my self. The issue is that the namings in the DMS keystrokes are so weird and very foreign to me I will have to go back to F4 keystrokes.

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                    Frederf last edited by

                    @Denco:

                    I’m just about to start programing my new joystick and I want to do it the right way.

                    For the right way, make a copy of keystrokes.key or BMS.key and name the file Denco.key. Delete the lines you will never use, rename the labels in quotes as you need to, change most keys to 0xF…F to make them blank, and bind your joystick DX numbers directly to callbacks. If you need a shift to expand the button options use SimHotasPinkyShift to elevate the input by 256.

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                      Icarus @Denco last edited by

                      @Denco:

                      Hmm, I dislike both profiles and will rather do one my self. The issue is that the namings in the DMS keystrokes are so weird and very foreign to me I will have to go back to F4 keystrokes.

                      Read Kolbe’s Falcon BMS Keyfile Manual In the BMS joystick/generic folder. You will be bilingual in no time. That’s how I figured it out. Its really pretty simple once you get it.

                      And this
                      https://www.benchmarksims.org/forum/content.php?153-DirectX-Shifting-Facility

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                        Agave_Blue @Icarus last edited by

                        @Icarus:

                        Read Kolbe’s Falcon BMS Keyfile Manual In the BMS joystick/generic folder. You will be bilingual in no time. That’s how I figured it out. Its really pretty simple once you get it.

                        And this
                        https://www.benchmarksims.org/forum/content.php?153-DirectX-Shifting-Facility

                        I agree. Takes a little work to learn the language, but once you get what’s going on it’s pretty easy.

                        I also recommend doing as much DX as possible …. avoid using the Saitek ‘keyboard emulation’ software where ever possible. Kolbe has a spreads sheet in the same location noted above to simplify assigning DX commands to the X52 for use in a keyfile.

                        Edit:

                        You may also find the HOTAS mappings on pages 26, 27 and 51, 52 of the dash1 useful … C:\Falcon BMS 4.32\Docs\Falcon BMS Manuals\BMS-Dash1.pdf

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                          Denco @Agave_Blue last edited by

                          Who is this guy Kolbe I wish to thank him for creating the DX Generator.

                          EDIT: Can anyone tell me where I can find all the callback commands.

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                            Agave_Blue @Denco last edited by

                            I personally don’t know of a complete list.

                            Kolbe’s DX spreadsheet has a lot, but not all.

                            The Dash-1 might the most complete, but they’re not a ‘list’ so much as referenced for each system. There is no ‘index of callbacks’ as far as I know.

                            The best list might be the BMS.key and Keystrokes.key keyfiles. I know I referenced them often when I was building my DX commands for the X52 Pro.

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                              Denco @Agave_Blue last edited by

                              I’ll try my luck there then. I’m missing the flaps up/down command.

                              Found it 🙂

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                                Frederf @Denco last edited by

                                What airplane are you flying in BMS? There’s no flaps up/down for F-16.

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                                  Icarus @Denco last edited by

                                  Same folder as keystroke generator.
                                  C>Falcon BMS 4.32>User>joystick>Kolbe>BMS keystroke files.

                                  BMS_Keystrokes_Ver_1_6_Full.key

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                                    Tiffy @Frederf last edited by

                                    @Frederf:

                                    What airplane are you flying in BMS? There’s no flaps up/down for F-16.

                                    He might be using the Alt Flaps switch on the FLCP in error.

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                                      Denco @Frederf last edited by

                                      @Frederf:

                                      What airplane are you flying in BMS? There’s no flaps up/down for F-16.

                                      I’m 100% sure when I was using Keystrokes.key I was able to move flaps up and down. Its been a while since I last played it so I might be wrong.

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                                        Frederf @Denco last edited by

                                        I don’t know what happens when you use the flaps up/down controls for generalized airplanes on the F-16. Maybe it works but this is not normal operation. There are a number of things you can do with callbacks in BMS that do not have a real life equivalent. To avoid avionics bugs or just to have an accurate simulation experience, you have to be careful which callbacks you use.

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                                          Denco @Frederf last edited by

                                          Well in the end I’ve settled for the profile from KesMonkey since it had pretty much all I need mapped in it. But I’m having a slight issue.

                                          The overrides are mapped to Mode 1, 2 and 3. I don’t like that and would like to unbind them. The issue is I can’t since the binding is not done in the profile editor it self. I tried deleting the overrides commands from the key file but sadly it did nothing.

                                          Can anyone shed any light on this?

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