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    • Smokey72nd
      Smokey72nd last edited by

      Hi guys,

      Just wanted to report something that hasn’t happened before that I know of, and haven’t seen a thread about yet. We were doing some touch and go’s last night, and then taxied to the ramp for a hotpit refuel. After refuelling and sitting on the ramp with my chocks in place for 6 or 7 minutes while waiting for other guys to finish hotpitting, my aircraft all of a sudden leaned on to it’s left wing. The gear appears to have collapsed, however the gear itself seemed ok and the wheel appears to have disappeared into the pavement. Anyways, the gear indicator in-pit showed only 2 green after that with the same side (rear left) out. Anyways, not sure if anyone else has seen this happen, but felt it was worth mentioning.

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      • ?
        Guest last edited by

        Hmm, that’s sort of funny. Random failure??

        RAM22

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        • Smokey72nd
          Smokey72nd @Guest last edited by

          Thats what I though Ram, although I have never enabled random failures in the config. With that said I’ll definately check to see if it is or not, when I get home after work tonight.

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          • Dog 69th VFS
            Dog 69th VFS @Guest last edited by

            Never heard of that either, nice failure heheheheh

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            • ?
              Guest @Dog 69th VFS last edited by

              If you don’t have it enabled then probably just another MP quirk I’d guess. The one thing that strikes me is the fault light for the gear being out, obviously the issue was caught whether an actual failure or anomaly.

              Either way, it’s a good issue post as there may be more than meets the eye.

              RAM22

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              • Skwabie
                Skwabie @Guest last edited by

                lol…

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                • Hornet
                  Hornet @Skwabie last edited by

                  Hi,

                  Could it be the brakes, still building up heat after full stop? Not sure if intention or bug in this particular case, but after having read the brake article, to me it sounds like a blown tire caused by overheated brakes.

                  Could very well be a bug in this case, but that part of the code is my suspect here 🙂

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                  • Dog 69th VFS
                    Dog 69th VFS @Skwabie last edited by

                    @Skwabie:

                    lol…

                    Get me a frikin crew chieeeeeeeeeeeeeeef! rflmao!

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                    • ?
                      Guest @Dog 69th VFS last edited by

                      Funny stuff, LMAO. That’s NO blown tire, the whole damn gear is FUBAR.:-o

                      RAM22

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                      • Smokey72nd
                        Smokey72nd @Guest last edited by

                        I doubt it was overheat on the brakes as the touch and go’s we did did not require any breaking and then it was a simple task of parking the jet while hotpit refuelling. Chocks were on after that, along with the parking brake. Wish I had taken a screenshot but it definately looked like the one posted by Skwabie!

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                        • Wolf
                          Wolf @Smokey72nd last edited by

                          I was parked next to Smokey,and from my view his landing gear had disappeared,unlike Skwabie`s pic.

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                          • riboyster
                            riboyster @Wolf last edited by

                            haha you need to yell at your crew chief for letting you fly on a fudged tire. that’s about all I can think of.

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                            • Tulkas
                              Tulkas @riboyster last edited by

                              It happened something similar to me some weeks ago.

                              I was leading a formation landing of two ships, gear down ar 250kts. We were at the end of a 10 miles long final, everything looking good, 11 degrees AOA, FPM on the top of the bracket, 150-160kts and around 300 feets and very close to land when I heard this typical Falcon scratching sound (in the air!) and my wingman suddently says to me “have you retract the gear?”, “Nop”, “Well, you’ve got no gear”, “Well, I have the bracket in the HUD…” I checked the lights and I was missing my left gear, checked external view and it was consistent, no left gear (wingman saw no gear at all).

                              I thought about reporting but I have not been able to reproduce it ever again so I forgot about it.

                              Hope it helps.

                              Cheers

                              Tulkas

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                              • ?
                                Guest @Tulkas last edited by

                                @Tulkas:

                                I checked the lights and I was missing my left gear, checked external view and it was consistent, no left gear (wingman saw no gear at all).

                                AHA, 3 guys, 3 left gear FUBAR. Coincidence??? I don’t think SO!!!

                                LOL

                                RAM22

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                                • kneejo
                                  kneejo @Guest last edited by

                                  Hmm, related to the exploding jets upon entering 3D I guess… When I have the explosions, and it’s less severe, I have damages like this. The jet doesn’t damage enough to explode, but gears break, engines fail… basically anything that would normally only occur on a rough landing. As if the jet drops from 1 feet on the tarmac one time, and from 3 feet the other time… causing damage, that when enough, leads to explosions.

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                                  • ?
                                    Guest @kneejo last edited by

                                    Yep Kneejo, same here. If I don’t explode then it is some sort of damage which always results in the aircraft sinking into the ground. Almost everytime it sinks 3 ft, occasionally 1.

                                    I checked the airbase leveling at OSAN thinking possibly the taxi way area was lower/higher but it wasn’t, 97ft all around. So leveling at OSAN at least is not the problem.

                                    RAM22

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                                    • caper
                                      caper @Guest last edited by

                                      you guys got to close to the stealth KC-10 🙂

                                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf5z1HWILg0

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                                      • Mav-jp
                                        Mav-jp @Guest last edited by

                                        @RAM22:

                                        Yep Kneejo, same here. If I don’t explode then it is some sort of damage which always results in the aircraft sinking into the ground. Almost everytime it sinks 3 ft, occasionally 1.

                                        I checked the airbase leveling at OSAN thinking possibly the taxi way area was lower/higher but it wasn’t, 97ft all around. So leveling at OSAN at least is not the problem.

                                        RAM22

                                        does this happen when Ramp in Cold jet or always after a landing ?
                                        are you sure you never entered into yellow braking energy area ?

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                                        • ?
                                          Guest @Mav-jp last edited by

                                          @Mav-jp:

                                          does this happen when Ramp in Cold jet or always after a landing ?
                                          are you sure you never entered into yellow braking energy area ?

                                          JP,

                                          This is ALWAYS when entering the 3D and doing either Taxi or Runway. Not landing and I never do RAMP.

                                          RAM22

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                                          • Mav-jp
                                            Mav-jp @Guest last edited by

                                            @RAM22:

                                            JP,

                                            This is ALWAYS when entering the 3D and doing either Taxi or Runway. Not landing and I never do RAMP.

                                            RAM22

                                            SP or MP only ?

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