BMS Other Fighters Mafia (BMSOFM) Journal
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Good Day, All, and I hope everyone had a Merry Christmas.
The news of the day refers to the hotspot issue. In another thread White Fang wrote…
Without Lodeditor and unpacking database - NO WAY… right? correct me if I’m wrong. (similar problems with AV-8B+ pit, also pit dials lightning) , … 4.35 has changes to all those functions , so unfortunately those changes negatively impacted other pits then F-16’s …-OH! YOU can edit hotspots coords in 3dpit.dat , but that is wiiiiiild guess for coords system … even more complicated then to do it from Lodedit , and still, you can’t assign proper switches state textures … like a pro
They can be fixed … but as I’ve said above. PITA. : unpack database , find pit to fix , “CONFIGURE” and fire up Lodeditor, load pit model , assign buttons/ switches textures for all cases - day/night dial lightning , save model , repack into database … Kinda a week day job … I have no time for that - also would need help from experienced Lodeditor “guru” , as my knowledge is very limited.
I’ve did some things before like pilot legs for F-18 with kneeboards , but that was before db was changed to >2GB format , … it was easier back then , believe me. like, piece of cake.
Assigning textures is probably the worst job as every theater has it’s own textures set , so fixing pit in one theater means probably not working in other theater - but is probably easier to fix that , just need to rename assigned .dds correctly … it would work … EVERY START IS HARD - once you get going … ah what to hell - go to finish
There are programmers expressing interest in the Hornet Mafia, and I told them I’d share it here.Add these two lines in your config file :
set g_bActivateDebugStuff 1
set g_b3DClickableCockpitDebug 1Launch the game, go in 3D and now you can see all the hotspots in the cockpit (XYZ values are on the top of the screen). You are now able to find the good XYZ values for a new hotspot.
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@Bad:
It is normal because now the JFS position is no more corresponding to the F-18 cockpit where the JFS button is located (speaking about pure XYZ coordinates in the screen).
You need to edit the default F-18 line :
SimJfsStart -0.37953 1.481295 -2.286586 20 115 1like this :
SimJfsStartInc -0.37953 1.481295 -2.286586 20 115 1 (where -0.37953 1.481295 -2.286586 are the XYZ values)
SimJfsStartDec -0.37xxxx 1.48xxxx -2.28xxxx 20 115 1 (here you need to slightly adjust the XYZ values to corespond to the exact location where the jfsStartDec spot is)BB
Hi, BB, and thx. So, the editing the numbers in 1799’s 3dbutton is easy enough, it’s the estimating that sounds tough… Am I correct in assuming that the “slightly adjust xyz” is where LOdeditor comes in(post 56)? OR, if I were to go back to 4.34’s 3dbutton, would that give me switch position?
If so, 4.34>>1799>ckptArt’s JFS value is…SimJfsStart -0.37953 1.481295 -2.286586 20 115 1 , which as you notice is the jfs start increase you posted.
Now what?
Or, what do you think of this…4.35’s>ckptArt.f-16cm50 has this for JFS start…
SimJfsStart_Start2 -0.800643 1.398373 -2.233014 30 319 2
I’m just trying to start the jet, so what about I paste the following to 1799
SimJfsStart_Start2 -0.37953 1.481295 -2.286586 20 115 1
which is 4.35’s spot description “sliced” the Hornet switch position. Would that work?
Update: SUCCESS!!
What I added to my 4.35>Data>Art>ckptart>1799> 3dbutton is
SimJfsStartInc -0.37953 1.481295 -2.286586 20 115 1
SimJfsStartDec -0.37953 1.481295 -2.286586 20 115 1
SimJfsStart_Off -0.37953 1.481295 -2.286586 20 115 1
SimJfsStart_Start2 -0.37953 1.481295 -2.286586 20 115 1
And the hotspot is back, the switch moved to the right , and the jet started. I’m ASSUMING that the location data ( the numbers) for the Hornet on your is install is the same as mine, but I would check. I got the numbers off the 4.34>>>1799. As it’s 1 am for me, and my brain is fried I’ll work on the parking brake, etc., tomorrow. It seems that the basic concept is to take the description part of the entry (ex:SimJfsStartInc ) and "splice " the Horent location values to it.Meanwhile, on to another trick…If you guys get FLCS faults and ISA All Fail on the FLCS page, the FLCS Bit will fail. I had that happen tonight. But the solution is simple. The BMS Faults Checklist shows the solution as “press FCLS reset button”. The problem is, the BMS Bug doesn’t have one. The FCS reset button modeled does something else. But, he key command for “FLCS switch -Hold” is control-alt-F5 on my 4.35 BMS-Full keyfile. I remapped mine to where it is now a single key press, but that’s just personal preference. Press that and you’re good to go.
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It’s now 1:30am, but what the heck, I was on a roll.
To fix the Landing lights, go to the 4.35>>>1799 and change your landing lights entries to…
SimLandingLightInc -1.7583 1.283902 -2.110375 20 129 1
SimLandingLightDec -1.7583 1.283902 -2.110375 20 129 2
And the parking brake…
SimParkingBrakeInc -1.8109 1.092538 -2.219647 20 120 1
SimParkingBrakeDec -1.8109 1.092538 -2.219647 20 129 2
All you had to do in these cases were to change the commands from on and off to Inc and Dec.
Also note the last digit ( the 1 and 2). That determines which direction the switch moves in pit. 1 is for up/on and 2 is for off/down
BTW:If someone with Lodeditor or whatever can get me the Hornet’s kneeboard location data, I’ll get to work on them, too -
When done just send me the final 3dbuttons.dat file and I’ll include the change for the next bms release
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@Bad:
When done just send me the final 3dbuttons.dat file and I’ll include the change for the next bms release
Ok, BB, will do. I’m just waiting to see if someone can give me the Bug’s kneeboard location data.
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Hello. This is my 3dbuttons.dat in 1799 folder and how i did the workaround. Both starts working, 1 and 2. As flying the hornet longer time in bms i immediately noticed about hotspots mismatch when i couldn’t start jfs. I also made some texture change for me, unrealistic but it is according to my settings.
About parking brakes i do the right click to brake on, then left click to anti skid switch to turn the warning light off.
Landing light i set to Up or Down only since f18 seems to have no landing light , just taxi light….---- Created by LOD Exporter / F/A-18C ---- AFAlternateGear -1.94448 1.249588 -1.886950 30 321 1 AFAlternateGearReset -1.94448 1.249588 -1.886950 30 314 2 AFCanopyOpen -1.12040 -1.123762 -1.598873 20 322 1 AFCanopyClose -1.12040 -1.123762 -1.598873 20 322 2 AFGearDown -1.99499 1.187428 -1.923224 20 118 2 AFGearUp -1.99499 1.187428 -1.923224 20 119 1 SimReticleSwitchDown -1.96758 0.210498 -1.088899 20 311 2 SimReticleSwitchUp -1.96758 0.210498 -1.088899 20 311 1 SimHUDScalesDown -1.96756 -0.127350 -1.089178 20 311 2 SimHUDScalesUp -1.96756 -0.127350 -1.089178 20 311 1 SimSymWheelDn -1.96699 0.122752 -1.086350 20 115 2 w SimSymWheelUp -1.96699 0.122752 -1.086350 20 115 1 w SimPitchLadderUp -1.95855 -0.074809 -1.201891 20 311 2 SimPitchLadderDown -1.95855 -0.074809 -1.201891 20 311 1 SimHUDAltUp -1.95855 0.008652 -1.201892 20 311 1 SimHUDAltDown -1.95855 0.008652 -1.201892 20 311 2 SimHUDBrightnessUp -1.96758 0.040243 -1.088899 20 311 1 SimHUDBrightnessDown -1.96758 0.040243 -1.088899 20 311 2 SimHUDVelocityUp -1.96317 -0.043601 -1.091949 20 120 1 w SimHUDVelocityDown -1.96317 -0.043601 -1.091949 20 120 2 w SimHmsSymWheelUp -2.04001 -0.959147 -1.046329 20 116 1 w SimHmsSymWheelDn -2.04001 -0.959147 -1.046329 20 116 2 w SimRetUp -1.95860 0.083564 -1.201895 20 120 1 w SimRetDn -1.95860 0.083564 -1.201895 20 120 2 w SimAud1Com1Gd -1.97625 0.245171 -0.950097 20 124 1 SimAud1Com1Sql -1.97625 0.245171 -0.950097 20 124 2 SimAud1Com2Gd -1.97579 -0.249671 -0.954870 20 124 1 SimAud1Com2Sql -1.97579 -0.249671 -0.954870 20 124 2 SimILSOff -1.90441 0.000000 -0.937036 20 126 2 SimILSOn -1.90441 0.000000 -0.937036 20 126 1 SimICPIFF -1.90441 0.118717 -0.937036 20 126 1 SimICPDEDUP -1.93832 0.237803 -0.635318 20 120 1 SimICPResetDED -1.93632 0.267800 -0.655871 15 120 1 SimICPDEDDOWN -1.93414 0.237803 -0.678192 20 120 1 SimICPDEDSEQ -1.93632 0.216807 -0.655871 20 120 1 SimICPTILS -1.93231 0.168519 -0.650903 20 126 1 SimICPALOW -1.93231 0.108061 -0.650904 20 126 1 SimICPTHREE -1.93231 0.047604 -0.650904 20 126 1 SimICPCrus -1.92644 0.108061 -0.711076 20 126 1 SimICPSIX -1.92644 0.047604 -0.711076 20 126 1 SimICPStpt -1.92644 0.168519 -0.711076 20 126 1 SimICPMark -1.92068 0.168519 -0.770154 20 126 1 SimICPEIGHT -1.92068 0.108061 -0.770154 20 126 1 SimICPNINE -1.92068 0.047604 -0.770154 20 126 1 SimICPEnter -1.91482 0.047604 -0.830327 20 126 1 SimICPZERO -1.91482 0.108061 -0.830327 20 126 1 SimICPCLEAR -1.91482 0.168519 -0.830327 20 126 1 SimStepComm1VolumeUp -1.92362 0.253052 -0.739982 20 115 1 w SimStepComm1VolumeDown -1.92362 0.253052 -0.739982 20 115 2 w SimStepComm2VolumeUp -1.92362 -0.251764 -0.739982 20 115 1 w SimStepComm2VolumeDown -1.92362 -0.251764 -0.739982 20 115 2 w SimICPNext -1.92250 -0.024595 -0.568529 20 120 1 SimICPPrevious -1.91610 -0.024595 -0.634171 20 120 1 SimICPLIST -1.90970 -0.024595 -0.699814 20 120 1 SimDriftCO -1.92097 -0.024595 -0.767179 20 120 1 SimWarnReset -1.91457 -0.024595 -0.832822 20 120 1 SimICPFAck -1.92000 0.254217 -0.580575 20 120 1 ExtinguishMasterCaution -2.17190 0.520000 -0.562107 20 127 1 SimSlapSwitch -1.17467 1.078126 -1.535592 20 129 1 SimICPAA -2.06071 0.962626 -0.975145 20 318 1 SimICPAG -2.05223 0.962626 -1.006174 20 318 1 SimICPCom2 -1.90399 -0.249437 -0.839767 20 120 1 SimICPCom1 -1.90643 0.249438 -0.840005 20 120 1 SimRWRHandoff -2.08234 -0.025557 -2.197027 20 120 1 SimRWRSetTargetSep -2.08234 -0.087782 -2.197027 20 120 1 SimRWRSetPriority -2.08234 -0.150007 -2.197027 20 120 1 SimRwrPower -2.08323 -0.212233 -2.197335 20 120 1 SimAltPressInc -2.16489 -0.642215 -1.897492 20 115 1 w SimAltPressDec -2.16489 -0.642215 -1.897492 20 115 2 w SimCBEOSB_20L -2.10356 0.844623 -0.809373 20 126 1 SimCBEOSB_19L -2.08562 0.844623 -0.875027 20 126 1 SimCBEOSB_18L -2.06767 0.844623 -0.940681 20 126 1 SimCBEOSB_17L -2.04973 0.844623 -1.006335 20 126 1 SimCBEOSB_16L -2.03178 0.844623 -1.071989 20 126 1 SimCBEOSB_10L -2.03178 0.344396 -1.071989 20 126 1 SimCBEOSB_6L -2.10356 0.344396 -0.809373 20 126 1 SimCBEOSB_7L -2.08562 0.344396 -0.875027 20 126 1 SimCBEOSB_8L -2.06767 0.344396 -0.940682 20 126 1 SimCBEOSB_9L -2.04973 0.344396 -1.006335 20 126 1 SimCBEOSB_5L -2.13185 0.458240 -0.705876 20 126 1 SimCBEOSB_1L -2.13185 0.730488 -0.705876 20 126 1 SimCBEOSB_2L -2.13185 0.662426 -0.705876 20 126 1 SimCBEOSB_3L -2.13185 0.594364 -0.705876 20 126 1 SimCBEOSB_4L -2.13185 0.526302 -0.705876 20 126 1 SimCBEOSB_11L -2.00342 0.458240 -1.175782 20 126 1 SimCBEOSB_15L -2.00342 0.730488 -1.175781 20 126 1 SimCBEOSB_14L -2.00342 0.662426 -1.175781 20 126 1 SimCBEOSB_13L -2.00342 0.594364 -1.175781 20 126 1 SimCBEOSB_12L -2.00342 0.526302 -1.175781 20 126 1 SimMasterArmDown -2.03004 0.946008 -1.073863 20 311 2 SimMasterArmUp -2.03004 0.946008 -1.073863 20 311 1 SimEmergencyJettison -2.03224 0.961632 -1.246130 30 123 1 SimCBEOSB_20R -2.10354 -0.345739 -0.809357 20 126 1 SimCBEOSB_19R -2.08560 -0.345739 -0.875011 20 126 1 SimCBEOSB_18R -2.06766 -0.345739 -0.940665 20 126 1 SimCBEOSB_17R -2.04971 -0.345739 -1.006319 20 126 1 SimCBEOSB_16R -2.03177 -0.345739 -1.071973 20 126 1 SimCBEOSB_10R -2.03177 -0.845965 -1.071973 20 126 1 SimCBEOSB_6R -2.10354 -0.845965 -0.809357 20 126 1 SimCBEOSB_7R -2.08560 -0.845965 -0.875011 20 126 1 SimCBEOSB_8R -2.06766 -0.845965 -0.940665 20 126 1 SimCBEOSB_9R -2.04971 -0.845965 -1.006319 20 126 1 SimCBEOSB_5R -2.13183 -0.732122 -0.705860 20 126 1 SimCBEOSB_1R -2.13183 -0.459873 -0.705860 20 126 1 SimCBEOSB_2R -2.13183 -0.527936 -0.705860 20 126 1 SimCBEOSB_3R -2.13183 -0.595998 -0.705860 20 126 1 SimCBEOSB_4R -2.13183 -0.664060 -0.705860 20 126 1 SimCBEOSB_11R -2.00340 -0.732122 -1.175765 20 126 1 SimCBEOSB_15R -2.00340 -0.459873 -1.175765 20 126 1 SimCBEOSB_14R -2.00340 -0.527936 -1.175765 20 126 1 SimCBEOSB_13R -2.00340 -0.595998 -1.175765 20 126 1 SimCBEOSB_12R -2.00340 -0.664060 -1.175765 20 126 1 SimMPO -1.99448 -0.996483 -1.208743 20 317 1 8 SimFuelDump -0.65028 1.011169 -2.352986 20 311 1 SimFuelTransNorm -0.70833 1.207039 -2.325469 20 311 2 SimFuelTransWing -0.70833 1.207039 -2.325469 20 311 1 SimAuxComUFC -0.16744 1.177313 -2.355861 20 311 1 SimAuxComBackup -0.16744 1.177313 -2.355861 20 311 2 SimDecRadioChannel 0.01349 1.157414 -2.358223 20 121 2 SimCycleRadioChannel 0.01349 1.157414 -2.358223 60 121 1 SimDecRadioChannel -0.05344 1.157414 -2.355112 20 121 2 SimCycleRadioChannel -0.05344 1.157414 -2.355112 60 121 1 SimEpuUp -0.54941 1.520543 -2.267847 30 311 1 SimEpuDown -0.54941 1.520543 -2.267847 30 311 2 SimJfsStartInc -0.37953 1.481295 -2.286586 20 311 1 SimJfsStartDec -0.37953 1.481295 -2.286586 20 311 2 SimLandingLightUp -1.75830 1.283902 -2.110375 20 129 1 SimLandingLightDown -1.75830 1.283902 -2.110375 20 129 2 SimParkingBrakeUp -1.81090 1.092538 -2.219647 20 319 1 SimParkingBrakeDown -1.81090 1.092538 -2.219647 20 319 2 SimParkingBrakeMid -1.81090 1.195000 -2.129647 20 311 1 SimINSInc -0.74588 -1.301083 -2.297450 20 124 1 w SimINSDec -0.74588 -1.301083 -2.297450 20 124 2 w SimInteriorLightCW -1.11500 -1.291424 -2.281995 20 128 1 w SimInteriorLightCCW -1.11500 -1.291424 -2.281995 20 128 2 w SimInstrumentLightCW -1.11739 -1.069974 -2.320974 20 128 1 w SimInstrumentLightCCW -1.11739 -1.069974 -2.320974 20 128 2 w SimDecAirSource -1.25671 -1.285744 -2.275945 20 128 2 w SimIncAirSource -1.25671 -1.285744 -2.275945 20 128 1 w SimProbeHeatMoveUp -1.26800 -1.058154 -2.327565 30 311 2 SimProbeHeatMoveDown -1.26800 -1.058154 -2.327565 30 311 1 SimAntiIceInc -1.27600 -1.158154 -2.327565 30 311 1 SimAntiIceDec -1.27600 -1.158154 -2.327565 30 311 2 SimRightHptOff -1.56381 -1.306319 -2.258502 20 311 2 SimRightHptOn -1.56381 -1.306319 -2.258502 20 311 1 SimLeftHptOff -1.56604 -1.033993 -2.306468 20 311 2 SimLeftHptOn -1.56604 -1.033993 -2.306468 20 311 1 SimMainPowerDec -1.56844 -1.172448 -2.281917 20 311 2 SimMainPowerInc -1.56844 -1.172448 -2.281917 20 311 1 SimRightAPSwitch -2.04332 -0.237297 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SimEWSPGMDec -2.08641 0.237298 -1.685445 20 126 2 SimEWSProgInc -2.10761 0.237298 -1.621711 20 126 1 SimEWSProgDec -2.10761 0.237298 -1.621711 20 126 2 SimBupUhfFuncInc -0.10823 1.299701 -2.337009 20 311 1 SimBupUhfFuncDec -0.10823 1.299701 -2.337009 20 311 2 SimBupUhfModeInc 0.11821 1.299701 -2.347537 20 311 1 SimBupUhfModeDec 0.11821 1.299701 -2.347537 20 311 2 SimDLOn -1.90441 -0.059358 -0.937036 20 126 1 SimDLOff -1.90441 -0.059358 -0.937036 20 126 2 SimUFCOn -1.90441 -0.178075 -0.937036 20 126 1 SimUFCOff -1.90441 -0.178075 -0.937036 20 126 2 SimMFDOn -2.14437 0.594369 -0.660056 20 115 1 w SimMFDOff -2.14437 0.594369 -0.660056 20 115 2 w SimMFDOn -2.14435 -0.594354 -0.660053 20 115 1 w SimMFDOff -2.14435 -0.594354 -0.660053 20 115 2 w SimSMSOn -1.51441 1.347699 -2.250161 20 311 1 SimSMSOff -1.51441 1.347699 -2.250161 20 311 2 SimCATI -2.07559 -0.942078 -0.931570 30 311 2 SimCATIII -2.07559 -0.942078 -0.931570 30 311 1 SimGPSOn -1.47033 1.249308 -2.269578 20 311 1 SimGPSOff 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SimEWSJammerOn -1.98797 0.203091 -2.479033 20 311 1 SimEWSJammerOff -1.98797 0.203091 -2.479033 20 311 2 SimEWSRWROn -2.01127 -0.000734 -2.410612 20 128 1 w SimEWSRWROff -2.01127 -0.000734 -2.410612 20 128 2 w SimCBEOSB_BRTDOWN_L -2.00706 0.834533 -1.162453 10 116 2 w SimCBEOSB_BRTUP_L -2.00706 0.834533 -1.162453 10 116 1 w SimCBEOSB_BRTDOWN_R -2.00704 -0.355828 -1.162437 10 116 2 w SimCBEOSB_BRTUP_R -2.00704 -0.355828 -1.162437 10 116 1 w SimSeatOff -1.63326 -0.827244 -2.336507 40 315 1 SimSeatOn -1.63326 -0.827244 -2.336507 40 315 2 SimEcmPowerOn -1.92020 0.163247 -2.675782 20 311 2 SimEcmPowerOff -1.92020 0.163247 -2.675782 20 311 1 AFWingFoldToggle -1.78202 -1.321317 -2.054323 20 319 1 SimStepComm1VolumeDown -1.92362 0.253052 -0.739982 20 115 2 w SimStepComm1VolumeUp -1.92362 0.253052 -0.739982 20 115 1 w SimStepComm2VolumeUp -1.92362 -0.251764 -0.739982 20 115 1 w SimStepComm2VolumeDown -1.92362 -0.251764 -0.739982 20 115 2 w SimDedBrightnessCCW -1.92000 -0.250764 -0.581982 20 115 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-2.337511 20 317 2 SimF18FCSTOTrim -0.44429 1.287697 -2.231613 20 312 1
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oh, btw i forgot something. I also added some more hotspots…check it out in more detail
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Hi, FoxBMS,
I really like your work. If I may, some comments and questions…- I see where you added f-ack and drift, what switches are they on? I like that you added them
- You added Master Caution ( I really like that one)
3)I noticed you just did the jfs up and down. That gives you JFS 1 and 2?
4a)I noticed the “parking brake-Mid” entry, and that it’s at different coor. then parking brake. You commented on this, it’s mapped to the anti-skid switch?
b) I noticed your parking brake up/down instead of inc/dec. . - To be honest, I never checked if the RL Hornet had a landing light, or just taxi as you wrote. Cool, this gives people an option for LL.
6)I’m assuming Simhmssymwheel up and down is the Helmet mounted sight? If so, I notice it’s the same coor. as my 1799. I’d like to move that to the IFEI knob. That raises my main question this morning, how does a neophyte ,like me, determine spatial coordinates?? - I noticed you mapped FLCS reset to what had been FLCS power test. I like that one, too. It’s also pertinent since it’s seems some FLCS faults have been added in 4.35, plus in the RL Hornet pressing it is part of the checklist.
As mentioned before, where I’m at right now is,how can I determine the switch coordinates . A couple of people have mentioned LODeditor. I glanced at our 4.35 tools folder and didn’t see that specifically. What would be the best place for me , as a complete neophyte on it , to go?
There are only 4 Hornet coor. I really need at the moment-The IFEI knob ,take off trim, and the upper right corners and/or center points of the knee boards.
Thx for this help!
PS: Would you please pm me your 1799?
PPS: To the Group- Once I get everything set and sorted, I plan to update the main checklist for 4.35, and I’ll also list the changes we’re talking about here.
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@FoxBMS:
Hello. This is my 3dbuttons.dat in 1799 folder and how i did the workaround. Both starts working, 1 and 2. As flying the hornet longer time in bms i immediately noticed about hotspots mismatch when i couldn’t start jfs. I also made some texture change for me, unrealistic but it is according to my settings.
About parking brakes i do the right click to brake on, then left click to anti skid switch to turn the warning light off.
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2 SimCATI -2.07559 -0.942078 -0.931570 30 311 2 SimCATIII -2.07559 -0.942078 -0.931570 30 311 1 SimGPSOn -1.47033 1.249308 -2.269578 20 311 1 SimGPSOff -1.47033 1.249308 -2.269578 20 311 2 SimFCCOn -1.38529 1.348269 -2.259398 20 311 1 SimFCCOff -1.38529 1.348269 -2.259398 20 311 2 SimFCROn -0.74689 -1.075296 -2.337258 20 124 1 w SimFCROff -0.74689 -1.075296 -2.337258 20 124 2 w SimLaserArmOn -0.86448 -1.168885 -2.315272 20 311 1 SimLaserArmOff -0.86448 -1.168885 -2.315272 20 311 2 SimStepFormationLightsDown -1.19625 1.267502 -2.282443 20 128 2 w SimStepFormationLightsUp -1.19625 1.267502 -2.282443 20 128 1 w SimExtlMasterNorm -0.87437 1.288066 -2.293776 20 311 1 SimExtlMasterOff -0.87437 1.288066 -2.293776 20 311 2 SimAntiCollOn -1.01521 1.260895 -2.292025 20 128 1 SimAntiCollOff -1.01521 1.260895 -2.292025 20 128 2 SimWingLightBrt -1.07906 1.353916 -2.272636 20 128 1 w SimWingLightOff -1.07906 1.353916 -2.272636 20 128 2 w SimLightsFlash -1.19625 1.350000 -2.282443 20 314 1 SimLightsSteady -1.19625 1.350000 -2.282443 20 312 2 SimEWSFlareOn -2.05117 0.044785 -2.281881 20 115 1 w SimEWSFlareOff -2.05117 0.044785 -2.281881 20 115 2 w SimEWSChaffOn -2.05329 -0.268838 -2.275732 20 115 1 w SimEWSChaffOff -2.05329 -0.268838 -2.275732 20 115 2 w SimHookDown -2.01343 -1.181790 -1.885013 40 310 1 SimHookUp -2.01343 -1.181790 -1.885013 40 310 2 SimRALTUp -1.33949 1.258708 -2.277337 20 311 1 SimRALTDown -1.33949 1.258708 -2.277337 20 311 2 SimMasterFuelOn -1.59145 1.249308 -2.263947 20 311 1 SimMasterFuelOff -1.59145 1.249308 -2.263947 20 311 2 SimIncFuelSwitch -2.27050 0.595298 -1.589316 20 120 1 SimDecFuelSwitch -2.27050 0.595298 -1.589316 20 120 2 SimIncFuelPump -2.28504 0.595298 -1.537145 20 120 1 SimDecFuelPump -2.28504 0.595298 -1.537145 20 120 2 SimRFSwitch -1.92055 -0.257314 -0.661024 20 126 1 SimAVTRSwitchUp -2.17928 0.599573 -1.930960 20 311 1 SimAVTRSwitchDown -2.17928 0.599573 -1.930960 20 311 2 SimHUDDEDDown -2.17721 0.729911 -1.924099 20 311 2 SimHUDDEDUp -2.17721 0.729911 -1.924099 20 311 1 SimFuelDoorOpen -0.65965 1.297161 -2.311824 20 311 1 SimFuelDoorClose -0.65965 1.297161 -2.311824 20 311 2 SimEWSJammerOn -1.98797 0.203091 -2.479033 20 311 1 SimEWSJammerOff -1.98797 0.203091 -2.479033 20 311 2 SimEWSRWROn -2.01127 -0.000734 -2.410612 20 128 1 w SimEWSRWROff -2.01127 -0.000734 -2.410612 20 128 2 w SimCBEOSB_BRTDOWN_L -2.00706 0.834533 -1.162453 10 116 2 w SimCBEOSB_BRTUP_L -2.00706 0.834533 -1.162453 10 116 1 w SimCBEOSB_BRTDOWN_R -2.00704 -0.355828 -1.162437 10 116 2 w SimCBEOSB_BRTUP_R -2.00704 -0.355828 -1.162437 10 116 1 w SimSeatArm -1.63326 -0.827244 -2.336507 40 315 1 SimEcmPowerOn -1.92020 0.163247 -2.675782 20 311 2 SimEcmPowerOff -1.92020 0.163247 -2.675782 20 311 1 AFWingFoldToggle -1.78202 -1.321317 -2.054323 20 319 1 SimStepComm1VolumeDown -1.92362 0.253052 -0.739982 20 115 2 w SimStepComm1VolumeUp -1.92362 0.253052 -0.739982 20 115 1 w SimStepComm2VolumeUp -1.92362 -0.251764 -0.739982 20 115 1 w SimStepComm2VolumeDown -1.92362 -0.251764 -0.739982 20 115 2 w SimDedBrightnessCCW -1.92000 -0.250764 -0.581982 20 115 2 w SimDedBrightnessCW -1.92000 -0.250764 -0.581982 20 115 1 w SimLaunchBarEXTEND -1.83643 1.281785 -2.006411 30 311 2 SimLaunchBarRETRACT -1.83643 1.281785 -2.006411 30 311 1 SimTEFCMDInc -1.88413 1.198688 -2.041121 30 311 1 SimTEFCMDDec -1.88413 1.198688 -2.041121 30 311 2 SimIFFMasterLow -0.08000 1.450313 -2.265861 20 311 1 SimIFFMasterStby -0.08000 1.450313 -2.265861 20 311 2 SimIFFMasterEmerg -0.14709 1.010988 -2.356759 20 311 1 SimIFFMasterNorm -0.14709 1.010988 -2.356759 20 311 2 SimIFFMode4MonitorAud -0.01994 1.024827 -2.389634 20 311 1 SimIFFMode4MonitorOff -0.01994 1.024827 -2.389634 20 311 2 SimStepIntercomVolumeDown -0.27608 1.300657 -2.308161 20 115 2 w SimStepIntercomVolumeUp -0.27608 1.300657 -2.308161 20 115 1 w SimStepThreatVolumeDown -0.28144 1.181313 -2.355861 20 115 2 w SimStepThreatVolumeUp -0.28144 1.181313 -2.355861 20 115 1 w SimStepMissileVolumeUp -0.27809 1.040988 -2.356759 20 115 1 w SimStepMissileVolumeDown -0.27809 1.040988 -2.356759 20 115 2 w SimStepThreatVolumeDown -2.08136 -0.267771 -2.202752 20 115 2 w SimStepThreatVolumeUp -2.08136 -0.267771 -2.202752 20 115 1 w SimOxySupplyOn 0.29526 1.357344 -2.333838 20 311 1 SimOxySupplyOff 0.29526 1.357344 -2.333838 20 311 2 SimOverHeat -1.65797 1.062723 -2.296127 20 311 1 8 SimOverHeat -1.65797 1.062723 -2.296127 20 311 2 SimMalIndLights -0.98999 -1.025974 -2.320974 20 311 1 8 SimMalIndLightsOFF -0.98999 -1.025974 -2.320974 20 311 2 SimFLCSReset -0.45697 1.025637 -2.359162 20 314 1 AFCanopyToggle -1.12040 -1.123762 -1.598873 20 322 1 SimFLTBIT -0.30000 -1.320000 -1.915000 20 311 1 SimRWRSysTest -2.08234 0.040557 -2.197027 20 120 1 SimRWRSetSearch -2.13060 0.140000 -1.491720 20 126 1 SimRWRSetUnknowns -2.13060 0.070000 -1.491720 20 126 1 SimRWRLaunch -2.13060 0.002000 -1.491720 20 126 1 SimRWRSetGroundPriority -2.13060 -0.063000 -1.491720 20 126 1 AFBrakesToggle -2.13060 -0.130000 -1.491720 20 126 1
thanks a lot
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Yep, Seb, Fox’s is a very good 1499, more polished then mine in fact. But mine is still a work in progress. ;).
We’re going to get the Bug tweaked, and I haven’t given up on the Rhino , either. And that’s not all. I’ve been told the Harrier and other jets need help, too. The Harrier will be the priority as soon as the Hornet is polished, as we want to get the data in for U1 and the naval manual.
So, for the Hornet, all I need to polish it are the cockpit coordinates for the IFEI knob, takeoff trim button, and the right corner and/or midpoint of the kneeboards.
I posted elsewhere that the Hornet Mafia is now the Other Fighters Mafia, so for the Harrier and other jets, please post here any hotspots that have disappeared for 4.35. They will get addressed. In the meantime, I hope the workarounds we’ve been talking about, and/or the procedure as in posts 62-63 , and/or copy/paste Fox’s 1499 will get you back in the air. Of course, it’s always a good idea to save an unmodded copy of the folder before the fun begins.
To repeat, where the magic happens is the 4.35>Data>Art>ckptArt>your jet’s folder>3dbuttons.dat file. The Hornet’s is 1799. Check the list in ckptart, and if yours is listed by name we’re good-to-go. If it’s one of the numbered ones, we’ll just need a little detective work. The Harrier, btw, is listed by name. -
Cudos to you, drtbkj for this. True leadership, well done
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Hello drtbkj. Yes, i remeber years ago, it was actually only and most time detective work. I live with that until now….what else remains to you…? :D. Now when i know BMS structure little bit more, then lot of things can be much quicker tweaked. I want to answer your post 68.
- some of them not added by me as you mentioned, but i think it doesn’t matter right now, anyway, f-ack and drift are on Up Front Controls panel. Try these black rounded buttons. I’m working on the actual f18 cockpit manual…
- Jfs 1 left click and 2 right click, working, yes. Good idea is also bind SimJfsStartDown to some keyboard shortcut in case of discharge both jfs and must call ground crew to recharge.
- a) It is bound to anti skid switch, yes b) yes it is,it was immediate idea, probably not final layout , if you got better idea, let’s put it here ofc
- IFEI knob is for IFEI display brightness (engine display brightness - not implemented). I think it’s not good idea to move hms brigtness there, sorry.
- I will help you to find Takeoff trim coords but i will disappoint you with working kneeboards. The new system is probably tied up to F-16 legs model or cockpit only, because i already tried to make it work by adding hotspots and functions to config files. No luck, it doesn’t work in f18 cockpit. At least for me.
About FLCSReset and BIT. I’m not sure if we need FLCSPowerTest since in the newer version of f18 cockpit flcs power test indicators was removed (There were four thick dots in the middle on 3rd MFD)
You can check here around 7:00
Check also this thread pls.
https://www.benchmarksims.org/forum/showthread.php?40525-F-A-18-Improvements-modifications
There is also link for download some stuff you looking for. I was already dealing with that some time ago. So only thing i can help you is takeoff trim . I hope i didn’t miss something…
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This is not to be considered as version to be added to standart install, it will be just for us in the meantime. Things will be changed in future, hard to say how many impacts it will do to f18 cockpit and other cockpits.
P.S.: Anti ice added also. Beside probe heat switch, i think it is right position.
P.P.S.: i see that SimF18FCSGainNORM and SimF18FCSGainORIDE or toggle directives were probably removed, binding doesn’t work….Edit:
Take off trim - add this line should work when hold the button
SimF18FCSTOTrim -0.44429 1.287697 -2.231613 20 312 1
Found more precise point, code updated.
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@FoxBMS:
Hello drtbkj. Yes, i remeber years ago, it was actually only and most time detective work. I live with that until now….what else remains to you…? :D. Now when i know BMS structure little bit more, then lot of things can be much quicker tweaked. I want to answer your post 68.
- some of them not added by me as you mentioned, but i think it doesn’t matter right now, anyway, f-ack and drift are on Up Front Controls panel. Try these black rounded buttons. I’m working on the actual f18 cockpit manual…
- Jfs 1 left click and 2 right click, working, yes. Good idea is also bind SimJfsStartDown to some keyboard shortcut in case of discharge both jfs and must call ground crew to recharge.
- a) It is bound to anti skid switch, yes b) yes it is,it was immediate idea, probably not final layout , if you got better idea, let’s put it here ofc
- IFEI knob is for IFEI display brightness (engine display brightness - not implemented). I think it’s not good idea to move hms brigtness there, sorry.
- I will help you to find Takeoff trim coords but i will disappoint you with working kneeboards. The new system is probably tied up to F-16 legs model or cockpit only, because i already tried to make it work by adding hotspots and functions to config files. No luck, it doesn’t work in f18 cockpit. At least for me.
About FLCSReset and BIT. I’m not sure if we need FLCSPowerTest since in the newer version of f18 cockpit flcs power test indicators was removed (There were four thick dots in the middle on 3rd MFD)
You can check here around 7:00
Check also this thread pls.
https://www.benchmarksims.org/forum/showthread.php?40525-F-A-18-Improvements-modifications
There is also link for download some stuff you looking for. I was already dealing with that some time ago. So only thing i can help you is takeoff trim . I hope i didn’t miss something…
Hi, Fox, good morning,
- I’ve always been of he view, mainly because I don’t have the skills to do it, to not be bothered too much by things like f-ack not being on the panel. I mean, even in our Viper you have to take your hands off the controls. But, my friend, if we can then I say lets go for it. This is our time to make this happen . I’m happy you’re mentioned the cockpit manual. I’d love to share the load with you on that.
- concur.
4)cool - the rl Bug’s HMS switch is actually on the anti-spin panel, so the BMS location is actually more accurate. I had just had the wacky idea of freeing up the “map gain” and making it the gain control. We’re good as is, and please never be sorry for giving input!
- Bad Bay have me a tip
set g_bActivateDebugStuff 1
set g_b3DClickableCockpitDebug 1
that I haven’t had a chance to experiment , yet. I will later today. But, however that works ,your work with coordinates and everything else is invaluable. I saw your take off trim, cudos… Too bad about the kneeboards, but at least we know to not waste a lot of time on them for now
I agree with you that we should have FLCS reset on the panel. I tried just renaming my test to reset, but it didn’t work. I’ll be experimenting later today on that
Update: I rechecked my values, and it’s working now.
More later today…
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Here’s our update for the evening…
Take off trim and FLCS reset working perfectly. In fact the only hotspot not working in’pit is Master Caution.
Fox,
What you have in your 1799 is
ExtinguishMasterCaution -2.17190 -0.594749 -0.562107 20 127 1
ExtinguishMasterCaution -2.17190 0.594749 -0.562107 20 127 1
And mine is currently
ExtinguishMasterCaution -2.17190 -0.594749 -0.562107 20 127 1
ExtinguishMasterCaution -2.17190 -0.594749 -0.562107 20 127 1
The only difference is the - sign in the bottom entry’s 0.594… I’ve tried both , and neither is working
I’ve also been experimenting with parking brake and landing light. Right now my 1799 is back to the Viper methodology. I thought it might be nice to give people the option. What do you think? As you wrote, at some point we’ll need to decide which goes to the Dev’s
To the Group: As soon as we get this master caution issue solved, I’ll be posting the 1799 here. Also, attached here now is the Hornet checklist, updated for 4.35 -
@Bad:
Add these two lines in your config file :
set g_bActivateDebugStuff 1
set g_b3DClickableCockpitDebug 1Launch the game, go in 3D and now you can see all the hotspots in the cockpit (XYZ values are on the top of the screen). You are now able to find the good XYZ values for a new hotspot.
Hi, BB,. Sorry I didn’t get back to you sooner on this, I put these entries into config, but when I go into campaign the 'pit looks normal. Am I missing some step?
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One more update tonight, then I’m going flying
We now have a working BIT switch in the cockpit, though it’s location may move. As I had the coordinates for the oxygen supply toggle, I put it there. When I get better on mapping coordinates, there are a couple of switches in the aft left corner that would be perfect for it.
In the meantime, the entry into the 1799 is…
SimFLTBIT 0.29526 1.357344 -2.333838 20 129 1 -
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https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey=%21ALtn4GstRA0fJQ4&id=454D0138A0656698%21231&cid=454D0138A0656698
maybe this could help ?
Hi, Lolo, Thx for the links, I will definitely be looking at them. I need to be able to go into the cockpits of the Hornet, Harrier, and the others we want to address and get the get the x,y,z coordinates for every button in the cockpit. The biggest challenge for me is that I’ve never been exposed to that. So, I’ve gotten to where I can repair a hotspot if I know the coordinates. But I still don’t know a lot about how it all works.
For example, last night I was trying to put in a new hotspot in for the IFF Master knob .I tried various things. I ended up with the command, 124, and w as the Viper’s -CM50 file was set up, with the known position of a switch in the Hornet spliced in, and got…
SimIFFMasterDec 0.11821 1.299701 -2.347537 35 124 2 w
SimIFFMasterInc 0.11821 1.299701 -2.347537 35 124 1 w
Unfortunately, it didn’t work. in 'pit. I need to learn, for example, what the 124 means. The file lists the values after the coordinates as " <size><snd><msbtn><wheel>" I need to learn how to work with them. That way we can do more then just repair hotspots</wheel></msbtn></snd></size> -
124 means the sound number of the switch….check the manual about the sounds of the switches
Btw Learn from what i found…. I had just had the wacky idea of freeing up the “map gain” and making it the gain control. We’re good as is, and please never be sorry for giving input!
Remember, if u take function out, the buttons will get scattered. The iff master work different in F-18, there is no master knob like in F-16, i recommending to leave it as it is.
I think 3dbuttons is all right, why u need to do any changes? It works good i think…