IRWR?

[Supernova]

Hello pilots!

Straight to the point: Does the BMS have IRWR in any aircraft, integrated or as a pod? It is quite uncomfortable to find out about the IR missile after it has hit.

[VDK]

@Supernova said in IRWR?:

Straight to the point:

NO!

[Supernova]

@VDK Okay. I don’t know which planes have IRWR in reality, but some definitely do. Or am I wrong?

[VIPER. 0]

@Supernova said in IRWR?:

Hello pilots!

Straight to the point: Does the BMS have IRWR in any aircraft, integrated or as a pod? It is quite uncomfortable to find out about the IR missile after it has hit.

The WAR THUNDER module you request is turned off or out of service area.

[Supernova]

@VIPER-0 What does this have to do with War Thunder? Don’t misunderstand me, I was just asking, not requesting. I had heard of IRWR or IR MAWS, so I wanted to ask if there was something like that in BMS.

[VDK]

@Supernova said in IRWR?:

I don’t know which planes have IRWR in reality, but some definitely do. Or am I wrong?

You are right, some plane have an “IRWR” (they are call MAWS - Missile Approach Warning System, they work just as an RWR). But in BMS this is still not implemented yet… (maybe in 2-3 weeks? )

[Supernova]

@VDK said in IRWR?:

You are right, some plane have an “IRWR” (they are call MAWS - Missile Approach Warning System, they work just as an RWR). But in BMS this is still not implemented yet… (maybe in 2-3 weeks? )

I see. I guess I’ll have to rely on my eyes and intuition. Well, at least until 4.39.

[VDK]

@Supernova said in IRWR?:

I see. I guess I’ll have to rely on my eyes and intuition. Well, at least until 4.39.

Your Wingman is your best friend! He alert you of any incoming threat, IR sam launch or even IR AA missiles in a dogfight.

He will be calling: “SAM Launch!” (for a MANPAD) or “Fox 2 inbound!” (for IR AA missile if you are in a dogfight). He also calls “Archer inbound!” If you are dogfighting with a Mig-29/Su-27(33, 30…)

When i’m striking a ground target in a low altitude pass, i ALLWAYS do a pre-flare (pop 5 flares with aprox. 1 sec btw one flare and another). Doing this, i’m able to pass the target, drop my ordenance and make things harder for the OPFOR (remember, make things HARDER not IMPOSSIBLE! You are still a target to then! And they can hit you, but… it will be harder!).

Same applies when i’m about to enter in a dogfight!

Greetings from Brazil!

[Supernova]

@VDK
It may seem strange, but on CAP missions I fly alone. I don’t like to worry about the wingman.

I know I need fire flares before pass and after the pass. Otherwise, the MANPADS (or short range SAM) make the nozzle hurt… Yes, it doesn’t always help. Sometimes the launch is so close that there is only time to say “OH SHI…!”

Dodging a missile is not too hard if you know what to do.

Anyway, thanks for the advice (although I knew it).

[airtex2019]

I swear the ground-unit AI in BMS knows how many flares your plane can carry, and will count, and wait until you’re out – and when you’ve convinced yourself there’s no manpad theat on the site – before they shoot.

[Stevie]

@VDK - MAWS (Missile Approach Warning System) isn’t really an “IR missile detector”. It will detect the approach of ANY missile by detecting a missile’s exhaust plume - not it’s seeker/seeker type. It is not possible to detect an IR seeker. But it is possible to detect/discriminate any missile’s exhaust plume…at some distance that may or may not be suitably effective to evade it.

It’s mostly helicopters that have this system, though I think it is also on some USAF jets, including some F-16s. I think. I’ve played with such a RL system on the Harrier some decades ago, but AFAIK it was never actually deployed on Harriers.

[mirv]

No USAF F-16s have an MWS. The C-17 has one, in addition to LAIRCM (Large Aircraft Infrared Counter Measures), which is a system of sensors (similar to, but better than the earlier MWS sensors) and laser turrets that laze the seekers of IR missiles causing them to hopefully miss. The MWS as a stand alone detects missile launch plumes and triggers automatic flare program(s).

I’m sure some of the special C-130s have MWS, but I’m not familiar with them.

[VDK]

@Stevie said in IRWR?:

• MAWS (Missile Approach Warning System) isn’t really an “IR missile detector”. It will detect the approach of ANY missile by detecting a missile’s exhaust plume - not it’s seeker/seeker type. It is not possible to detect an IR seeker. But it is possible to detect/discriminate any missile’s exhaust plume…at some distance that may or may not be suitably effective to evade it.
  It’s mostly helicopters that have this system, though I think it is also on some USAF jets, including some F-16s. I think. I’ve played with such a RL system on the Harrier some decades ago, but AFAIK it was never actually deployed on Harriers.

Yep… i know… but i wasn’t trying to give our buddy (who made the question) a lecture about MAWS… I was trying to answer him in a short way, pure and simple!

[Stevie]

@mirv - I’ll bet the Israelis have it…and some USAF players, from the look…

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/32521/air-force-f-16s-are-getting-pylons-with-built-in-missile-warning-sensors-and-countermeasures