Campaign too easy?

[IonicRipper]

Just completed the first day in the campaign but it seems that maybe its just a bit too easy?

I set the difficulty as suggested: Challenge rating to rookie and AI levels set to veteran but after only about half way through the first day, it seems the enemy is out of planes and nearly out of air defenses?

Maybe its completely realistic being that the Isreali air force is known to be very strong and if it is, I have no problem with this.

So is it suppose to be that easy or is the campaign just not quite complete yet?

P.S. Dont get me wrong, I absolutely love this theater!

[Echo7]

@IonicRipper:

Maybe its completely realistic

So is it suppose to be that easy or is the campaign

just not quite complete yet

All is true
Have fun with it, and feel free to use a more difficult campaign settings, just keep in mind they were not nearly tested as the recommended settings (and probably less realistic too).
Future versions of ITO will have updated campaigns with more complex scenarios.

[TeeSquare]

Take control of some of the F-15 and F-16 squadrons and don’t give them any flights. I did this and the number of enemy bandits went up a lot.

[molnibalage]

@IonicRipper:

Just completed the first day in the campaign but it seems that maybe its just a bit too easy?

I set the difficulty as suggested: Challenge rating to rookie and AI levels set to veteran but after only about half way through the first day, it seems the enemy is out of planes and nearly out of air defenses?

Maybe its completely realistic being that the Isreali air force is known to be very strong and if it is, I have no problem with this.

So is it suppose to be that easy or is the campaign just not quite complete yet?

P.S. Dont get me wrong, I absolutely love this theater!

Try this.
https://www.benchmarksims.org/forum/showthread.php?20345-Korea-80s-Theater

[uri_ba]

Molni, did you really did that? A person asks a question about ITO and you link your unrelated theater? Really?

[molnibalage]

Yes. If a theater’s campaigns are too easy you can’t find much harder campaigns in the same theater. My campaigns harder. In case anybody wish to see a more challenging evironment I can recommend mine theater.

[spooky]

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[NIL]

@spooky:

Transponder code: 7500

Nice one :uham:

Greetings

[uri_ba]

@spooky:

Transponder code: 7500

you said it better then I did

Molni, Without disrespect to your theater.
if someone asks a question about a theater in ITO, he wants to play in ITO.
if he was complaining the stock KTO campaign is too easy, no one would have said something like “then you should try ITO”. as it’s a whole different thing.

[molnibalage]

Roger, but as I have said. A DB and modeling values determines the possible OOB. Most of 3rd patry theaters and stock campaigns are easy because none of SAMs/MANPAD or only a fraction can launch during movment and they literally never stop launch. You are literally totally safe even at low alt as long as enemy units are moving and stay aways from very over modeled MG AAA fire…

[Harlequin]

We finished up a really entertaining ITO experience a couple of months ago. Troop levels were set to veteran with ace/ace difficulty. We changed to ATO such that the AI did not target any air defences or runways.

We were being intercepted on most missions right up to the final day. Not realistic in the slightest (I presume) but it was crazy fun. Play with the settings, ATO and PAKS.

[SKLEGIN]

Ionic Ripper,
You can always build theatres harder if you wish…tactical engagement can create some nasty environments. I have built a middle east conflict that can keep you fighting through different countries, other than Israel…tough sorties…

[GetMeThis]

I have a question for the OP: have you done any SEAD missions in the early hours of the campaign? If so, please let me know how you coped with those SA-6’s?

[mastersetter]

Bumping this question too ^, im having a hard time with this campaign, keep getting shot down, even at low level by sa6. If i cant see them in the recon screen, how can i plan to avoid them or even target them?

[hoover]

I assume you’re talking about the “Standing wave” campaign in this theater?

I just finished “Loud and Clear” by Iftach Spector and would like to give ITO a go, too.

Cheers, Uwe

[mastersetter]

yip, thats it H. Love this theater, but cant get anywhere as early on, the air defences are lethal, even on cadet Im just not skilled enough as yet to fly the early missions, maybe i should leave it until midday! In the briefing, it will say, sa6 launchers 4km north of …. but i cant see them on the map, so i have to just mark the ones i can see sa2,3 etc but then i get engaged by a site that just crops up and it’s game over.

[hoover]

Hm, it might be a good idea to take control of a single squadron at first (uncheck the “set by HQ” box on the info window) and schedule nothing but BARCAPs and DCAs for it (setting the patrol duration to one minute on one of the “triangle” waypoints so you won’t be overtaxed).

This might be a good strategy to get a “feel” for the campaign and maybe get some good mission ratings (they influence the overall performance of your side, not just your missions).

All I can say is “keep at it”, playing (and hopefully winning) a full campaign is a very rewarding experience.

Cheers, Uwe

[Scottb613]

Hah - same experience SEAD kills me every time - have yet to come up with a tactic that works - the lack of standoff SEAD weapons is lethal - which I am sure the original authors intended…

Regards,
Scott

[hoover]

I tried my first “BARCAP” in “Standing Wave” today. Wingie and me were engaged defensive by both SA-6 and some MiG-29a. We went NOE and made it home safely, so we still got an “excellent” rating. I haven’t the foggiest idea TBH about how to deal with the MiGs if all you have is heaters, that’s way beyond my current skill level

All the best, Uwe

[GetMeThis]

Been at it again lately, love this theater. A great thank you to the team who made it.