Unsolved JASSM is missing targets
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BMS 4.37.2 KTO
AGM-158 JASSM is missing targets. Targets set in recon and radar targets it is missing, aim is a bit off. Other GPS guided weapons are good. Was working in previous bms versions.
Target is control tower. Miss.
Big miss.
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@Hubert3000 I have been seeing this too in the Middle East Campaign I am currently in.
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@Hubert3000 Seems ok to me, tested in TR#13.
Are you launching singles or pairs? What range and altitude? What attack-azimuth?
Are they always falling short – or missing long, or to the side?
I’ve noticed JSOW range is affected pretty strongly by headwind/crosswind. Less so for JASSM but might still be a factor, if launching at the edge of max range.
Always hit CZ (cursor-zero) before launching at a steerpoint target… also double-check the elevation of your target stpt is not zero.
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Try a TE not training mission and see if works. I will test TR13. Try static target not vehicles as they can still die with a near miss. Watch missile to see exactly where it hits.
I’ts not close to max range cursor is zeroed. Weird if it is only happening for some people! -
I saw same thing on Campaign, 4.36 (Late 2022), M2000D, Scalp/Apache.
Shifting was specifically in West direction if I well remember.
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Hi,
Are you guys launching the weapon always when it’s in “RDY alignment” state?
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@I-Hawk said in JASSM is missing targets:
Hi,
Are you guys launching the weapon always when it’s in “RDY alignment” state?
Yes. As stated in OP other GPS guided weapons working and JASSM was working in previous bms versions, that rules a few things out. Clearly a bug IMO but if no one else is seeing it then it’s a weird one.
And I tried stock CPU settings as I have OCed CPU as I suspected same result so it’s not that if that is next question lol. Ram, GPU on stock.
Anyway not a huge issue if no one else is seeing it just thought I’d mention it. -
@Hubert3000 AFAIR in this version the caret has to be at the bottom of the bracket for a good firing solution. Top or center won’t work. Don’t know if you have experimented with that
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@Hubert3000 said in JASSM is missing targets:
@I-Hawk said in JASSM is missing targets:
Hi,
Are you guys launching the weapon always when it’s in “RDY alignment” state?
Yes. As stated in OP other GPS guided weapons working and JASSM was working in previous bms versions, that rules a few things out. Clearly a bug IMO but if no one else is seeing it then it’s a weird one.
And I tried stock CPU settings as I have OCed CPU as I suspected same result so it’s not that if that is next question lol. Ram, GPU on stock.
Anyway not a huge issue if no one else is seeing it just thought I’d mention it.I’ll try to test myself later thanx.
Some more questions - When you say other weapons are working, does that include other similar weapons - i.e GPS guided with motor? or maybe only gliding weapons like JSOW or SDB?
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@I-Hawk said in JASSM is missing targets:
@Hubert3000 said in JASSM is missing targets:
@I-Hawk said in JASSM is missing targets:
Hi,
Are you guys launching the weapon always when it’s in “RDY alignment” state?
Yes. As stated in OP other GPS guided weapons working and JASSM was working in previous bms versions, that rules a few things out. Clearly a bug IMO but if no one else is seeing it then it’s a weird one.
And I tried stock CPU settings as I have OCed CPU as I suspected same result so it’s not that if that is next question lol. Ram, GPU on stock.
Anyway not a huge issue if no one else is seeing it just thought I’d mention it.I’ll try to test myself later thanx.
Some more questions - When you say other weapons are working, does that include other similar weapons - i.e GPS guided with motor? or maybe only gliding weapons like JSOW or SDB?
Yes everything working right except JASSM.
Edit: Tested non F-16 as pilot.
Typhoon with Stormshadow
EF-18 with Taurus
Rafale with Apache and Scalp
All missing going off target. Didn’t notice as I never fly these planes or use these weapons. Any other GPS guided powered munitions in game?These missiles are also dropping altitude slowly as they fly to target like JASSM.
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@jayb said in JASSM is missing targets:
@Hubert3000 AFAIR in this version the caret has to be at the bottom of the bracket for a good firing solution. Top or center won’t work. Don’t know if you have experimented with that
Yes I tried it at long/med/short range all misses. You mean range scale on HUD right? Top is max bottom is min. It should work at close to max range if not that is a bug. So you are also getting misses then?
Also JASSM drops altitude slowly after launch so you have to launch it above ~12,000ft for close to max range or it can hit the ground before target impact. Noticed that back in 4.33. Probably it should fly level.
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@Hubert3000 said in JASSM is missing targets:
@I-Hawk said in JASSM is missing targets:
@Hubert3000 said in JASSM is missing targets:
@I-Hawk said in JASSM is missing targets:
Hi,
Are you guys launching the weapon always when it’s in “RDY alignment” state?
Yes. As stated in OP other GPS guided weapons working and JASSM was working in previous bms versions, that rules a few things out. Clearly a bug IMO but if no one else is seeing it then it’s a weird one.
And I tried stock CPU settings as I have OCed CPU as I suspected same result so it’s not that if that is next question lol. Ram, GPU on stock.
Anyway not a huge issue if no one else is seeing it just thought I’d mention it.I’ll try to test myself later thanx.
Some more questions - When you say other weapons are working, does that include other similar weapons - i.e GPS guided with motor? or maybe only gliding weapons like JSOW or SDB?
Yes everything working right except JASSM.
In fact no, I’m testing on Dev version but I assume the same goes on on 4.37, I got both JSSMs and SDBs missing the control tower at Kalma airport, but hitting same spot exactly, means it’s not anything random. Targeting is messed up so it seems
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@I-Hawk said in JASSM is missing targets:
@Hubert3000 said in JASSM is missing targets:
@I-Hawk said in JASSM is missing targets:
@Hubert3000 said in JASSM is missing targets:
@I-Hawk said in JASSM is missing targets:
Hi,
Are you guys launching the weapon always when it’s in “RDY alignment” state?
Yes. As stated in OP other GPS guided weapons working and JASSM was working in previous bms versions, that rules a few things out. Clearly a bug IMO but if no one else is seeing it then it’s a weird one.
And I tried stock CPU settings as I have OCed CPU as I suspected same result so it’s not that if that is next question lol. Ram, GPU on stock.
Anyway not a huge issue if no one else is seeing it just thought I’d mention it.I’ll try to test myself later thanx.
Some more questions - When you say other weapons are working, does that include other similar weapons - i.e GPS guided with motor? or maybe only gliding weapons like JSOW or SDB?
Yes everything working right except JASSM.
In fact no, I’m testing on Dev version but I assume the same goes on on 4.37, I got both JSSMs and SDBs missing the control tower at Kalma airport, but hitting same spot exactly, means it’s not anything random. Targeting is messed up so it seems
Edit for you above. Having issues with GPS guided powered munitions. JASSM, Stormshadow, Taurus, Apache, Scalp.
That’s weird because I’ve done a few campaigns in 4.37.2 and had no trouble with JDAM, JSOW, SDB.
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@Hubert3000 said in JASSM is missing targets:
@I-Hawk said in JASSM is missing targets:
@Hubert3000 said in JASSM is missing targets:
@I-Hawk said in JASSM is missing targets:
@Hubert3000 said in JASSM is missing targets:
@I-Hawk said in JASSM is missing targets:
Hi,
Are you guys launching the weapon always when it’s in “RDY alignment” state?
Yes. As stated in OP other GPS guided weapons working and JASSM was working in previous bms versions, that rules a few things out. Clearly a bug IMO but if no one else is seeing it then it’s a weird one.
And I tried stock CPU settings as I have OCed CPU as I suspected same result so it’s not that if that is next question lol. Ram, GPU on stock.
Anyway not a huge issue if no one else is seeing it just thought I’d mention it.I’ll try to test myself later thanx.
Some more questions - When you say other weapons are working, does that include other similar weapons - i.e GPS guided with motor? or maybe only gliding weapons like JSOW or SDB?
Yes everything working right except JASSM.
In fact no, I’m testing on Dev version but I assume the same goes on on 4.37, I got both JSSMs and SDBs missing the control tower at Kalma airport, but hitting same spot exactly, means it’s not anything random. Targeting is messed up so it seems
Edit for you above. Having issues with GPS guided powered munitions. JASSM, Stormshadow, Taurus, Apache, Scalp.
That’s weird because I’ve done a few campaigns in 4.37.2 and had no trouble with JDAM, JSOW, SDB.
This is getting complicated… it’s been long time since I flew “operational”, so I apparently I messed up targeting. I set Control tower as target but apparently forgot to assigned it to the STPT, so anyway after that I’m sorry but I cannot reproduce, JSSMs are hitting perfectly time after time here in a self-made TE on Kalma Airport control tower. Will need a way to reproduce your issue.
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@I-Hawk said in JASSM is missing targets:
@Hubert3000 said in JASSM is missing targets:
@I-Hawk said in JASSM is missing targets:
@Hubert3000 said in JASSM is missing targets:
@I-Hawk said in JASSM is missing targets:
@Hubert3000 said in JASSM is missing targets:
@I-Hawk said in JASSM is missing targets:
Hi,
Are you guys launching the weapon always when it’s in “RDY alignment” state?
Yes. As stated in OP other GPS guided weapons working and JASSM was working in previous bms versions, that rules a few things out. Clearly a bug IMO but if no one else is seeing it then it’s a weird one.
And I tried stock CPU settings as I have OCed CPU as I suspected same result so it’s not that if that is next question lol. Ram, GPU on stock.
Anyway not a huge issue if no one else is seeing it just thought I’d mention it.I’ll try to test myself later thanx.
Some more questions - When you say other weapons are working, does that include other similar weapons - i.e GPS guided with motor? or maybe only gliding weapons like JSOW or SDB?
Yes everything working right except JASSM.
In fact no, I’m testing on Dev version but I assume the same goes on on 4.37, I got both JSSMs and SDBs missing the control tower at Kalma airport, but hitting same spot exactly, means it’s not anything random. Targeting is messed up so it seems
Edit for you above. Having issues with GPS guided powered munitions. JASSM, Stormshadow, Taurus, Apache, Scalp.
That’s weird because I’ve done a few campaigns in 4.37.2 and had no trouble with JDAM, JSOW, SDB.
This is getting complicated… it’s been long time since I flew “operational”, so I apparently I messed up targeting. I set Control tower as target but apparently forgot to assigned it to the STPT, so anyway after that I’m sorry but I cannot reproduce, JSSMs are hitting perfectly time after time here in a self-made TE on Kalma Airport control tower. Will need a way to reproduce your issue.
OK then. Well that’s not weird at all… lol.
Probably not worth worrying about if only 2 people are seeing it. I never use JASSM anyway.
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@Hubert3000 @I-Hawk Seifer found and fixed a bug recently re JSOWs missing, when approach azimuth was exactly 270 or 360. (Maybe other cardinal compass directions? or any azimuth between 270 and 360? not sure)
If that same codepath is used for JASSM… something to consider.
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@airtex2019 said in JASSM is missing targets:
@Hubert3000 @I-Hawk Seifer found and fixed a bug recently re JSOWs missing, when approach azimuth was exactly 270 or 360. (Maybe other cardinal compass directions? or any azimuth between 270 and 360? not sure)
If that same codepath is used for JASSM… something to consider.
Thanx I thought about it but in that case it was an original bug in the azimuth calculation which caused one of the missiles or both to go wrong position, but here there is no azimuth calculation at all, it’s a direct SPI position fed to the missile target position and that’s it.
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Update: Got new nvidia drivers 531.68 WIn10 and seems a lot better. Still slightly off target but only a few meters not like 50m off. Didn’t expect that to have an effect but with this game you never know.
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@Hubert3000 That’s strange, what system are you running ?
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@jayb said in JASSM is missing targets:
@Hubert3000 That’s strange, what system are you running ?
i7 4770K
Asrock Z97 Killer
Patriot Viper DDR3 1600 16GB
Galax GTX 1060 3 GB
Sandisk Ultra 2 480GB
Crucial MX500 500GB
WD Black 1TB
Thermaltake 750w
CH fighterstick
Philips 32" 1440p 60Hz
WIn10
Might upgrade soon. Still does 1080p 60Hz gaming Ok.
