Where can I find the Rafale?

[Swift]

I’ve seen a Rafale for FBMS but idk where to find the download link or a theater that has it. Does anyone else know where I can find one?

[Dee-Jay]

Hi!

Rafale for FBMS is not available yet.

[Swift]

Another 4.33 plane i guess. I’ll be eager for it to come out tho, that thing is sweeeeeeet!

[Shadow]

Where can I find the Rafale?

In France

[roccio]

http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/dassault-rafale-1/view/google/

[Dee-Jay]

@Shadow:

Where can I find the Rafale?

In France

Soon in Egypt and probably “soon” in India also.

[APOLLO 11]

You can try also in Indian Ocean of you drop by for a friendly visit nearby!!

http://www.thenational.ae/world/middle-east/france-deploys-aircraft-carrier-in-arabian-gulf-for-isil-fight

[Dee-Jay]

@Dee-Jay:

Soon in Egypt and probably “soon” in India also.

… now you can add the Qatar into the list. Maybe Swiss … and … why not … maybe one day … Belgium.

[Amraam]

You wanna killing me?

[Dee-Jay]

@Amraam:

You wanna killing me?

If you are flying an F-35, it will be so easy my dear friend!

Kindly (hope to be back with you on TS soon for chit chat )

[Khronik]

Still waiting for Canada to drop the F-35 and move for the Rafale or Super Hornet…

[Red Dog]

… now you can add the Qatar into the list. Maybe Swiss … and … why not … maybe one day … Belgium.

we should get the grippen, nothing more

[l3crusader]

@Red:

we should get the grippen, nothing more

HERESY ! HOW DARE YOU !

[Dee-Jay]

@l3crusader:

HERESY ! HOW DARE YOU !

No heresy Cruz. It is a matter of required capabilities, costs, needs and allocated budget as you know.

Here is the Swiss evaluation for 2017,

NWA1

NWA2

…but cost per a/c are not the same and what about maintenance agreements … etc … (?):

Why choosing Rafale if the Grippen perfectly fit for their (future) needs.

However, Belgium’s actions on European and even international operational scene is faaaaaar from being insignificant and are very active efficient and appreciated. Much more than many other European countries which I didn’t seen anywhere in operation and currently equipped with a/c considered as superior to the Grippen.

But what will be their future orientation? … I do not know. So Rafale is maybe not the best choice.

Whatever their choice, I which them the best a/c fitting with their requirements vs budgets.

No heresy Cruz. It is a matter of required capabilities, costs, needs and allocated budget as you know.

Here is the Swiss evaluation for 2017, but cost per a/c are not the same and what about maintenance agreements … etc … (?)

Why choosing Rafale if the Grippen perfectly fit for their (future) needs.

However, Belgium’s actions on European and even international operational scene is faaaaaar from being insignificant and are very active efficient and appreciated. Much more than many other European countries which I didn’t seen anywhere in operation and currently equipped with a/c considered as superior to the Grippen.

But what will be their future orientation? … I do not know. So Rafale is maybe not the best choice.

Whatever their choice, I which them the best a/c fitting with their requirements vs budgets.

[l3crusader]

I was just trolling a bit DJ I perfectly know that costs, specific agreements, etc…. comes into the balance.

But as the swiss realized : why take a Gripen when a Hornet do the job just as good… and if the Hornet is equivalent to a Gripen, the F-16 must be close too

[Red Dog]

the swiss only took the hornet because their country is a carrier within europe. They needed a navalized airframe

[Lukas]

@Dee-Jay:

No heresy Cruz. It is a matter of required capabilities, costs, needs and allocated budget as you know.

Here is the Swiss evaluation for 2017,
……

Whatever their choice, I which them the best a/c fitting with their requirements vs budgets.

I know another comparison (Rafale is great again, but Gripen is the most cost effective):
https://defenseissues.wordpress.com/2014/01/11/comparing-modern-western-fighters/

Outnumbering the enemy in the air

Outnumbering the enemy is depentant on generating large number of sorties. This is calculated by number of fighter aircraft procured for same amount of money times number of sorties per day per aircraft. For this comparision, 10 billion USD total procurement cost will be used.

Unit flyaway costs when adjusted for inflation to FY 2013 USD are 126 million USD for F-15C, 70 million USD for F-16C, 68 million USD for F-18C, 273 million USD for F-22A, 188 million USD for F-35A, 127 million USD for Typhoon, 95 million USD for Rafale C and 44 million USD for Gripen C, all in FY2013 USD. As a result, 10 billion USD gives 79 F-15Cs, 142 F-16Cs, 147 F-18Cs, 36 F-22As, 53 F-35As, 78 Typhoons, 105 Rafales and 227 Gripens.

Fighter aircraft is worthless if it doesn’t fly, so value required is number of sorties that given force can generate per day. Number of sorties per aircraft per day is 1 for F-15, 1,2 for F-16 and F-18, 0,5 for F-22, 0,3 for F-35, <2 for Typhoon, and 2 for Rafale and Gripen. Result is that sorties per day for 10 billion USD combined flyaway cost are 79 F-15C, 170 F-16C, 176 F-18C, 18 F-22A, 15 F-35A, <156 Typhoon, 210 Rafale and 454 Gripen. As can be seen, Gripen has significant advantage over every other fighter aircraft mentioned.

Rating is thus 1. Gripen, 2. Rafale, 3. F-18, 4. F-16, 5. Typhoon, 6. F-15, 7. F-22, 8. F-35.

…and I think they try to find replacement for F-5 (flied by reservists?), not F-18

[Migbuster]

@l3crusader:

But as the swiss realized : why take a Gripen when a Hornet do the job just as good…. and if the Hornet is equivalent to a Gripen, the F-16 must be close too

Exactly - ditch the Hornets and get F-16E Block 60+ types :bowd:

[Dee-Jay]

@Lukas:

I know another comparison (Rafale is great again, but Gripen is the most cost effective):
https://defenseissues.wordpress.com/2014/01/11/comparing-modern-western-fighters/

As said … much depends on requirements, and countries specific needs.

(As we well know, just to go from A to B by car, TRABANT wins in front of a Mustang LOL )

@Cruz … bad to very bad Internet access here, for me and to laugh a bit altogether … please find and post again the ridiculous advertisement YouTube videos of the Rafale, Typhoon and Grippen (found by Radium … I hope you remember) and lets start our own contest to have fun and enjoy, in community, a moment where everybody is on the same level … the level of not being serious!

…

[Migbuster]

@Dee-Jay:

No heresy Cruz. It is a matter of required capabilities, costs, needs and allocated budget as you know.

Here is the Swiss evaluation for 2017,

Isn’t that all from here? - NWA II was done in 2009 and based on proposed upgrades for 2015?