Mission Scoring

[Worther_1]

Hi all,
I have been stepping up my training prior to trying multiplayer online flying, today I created what I thought was a good TE. I was a two ship of F16C52’s attacking a bridge just over the border in KTO. I attacked said bridge, and took AAA fire from ground. My wingman called unable to attack ground target and AWACS informed me of incoming bandits. I sent my wingman to intercept whilst I finished attack with LGB. Wingman was defending against A2A when I got to him he had just ejected. I took out one bandit (Fox Three medium), bugged out and F-15C’s escorting AWACS took out the other bandit (both Mig23).

I was at bingo fuel after joining up with F-15C’s and just made it back to land. I enjoyed the mission and pushed my skills to the limit.

However, when I get back I get this mission summary:

What did I do wrong?
I destroyed bridge span & took out an enemy plane?

All I can see is I was a little late with TOT.

Any help would be appreciated.

Worther

[vandroy]

Yes, but you lost your wingman!

EDIT: here is an old related topic that can help
https://www.benchmarksims.org/forum/showthread.php?8877-Total-score-in-logbook/page3

[Nuno Santos]

Sounds like something buggy. Debrief shows primary target (bridge spans) destroyed by the GBU-10 and then you get zero ground targets destroyed. Makes no sense. Maybe TE debrief porked somehow?

[ASharpe]

@Nuno:

Sounds like something buggy. Debrief shows primary target (bridge spans) destroyed by the GBU-10 and then you get zero ground targets destroyed. Makes no sense. Maybe TE debrief porked somehow?

Maybe I am wrong about this, but would it show up under Ground Targets? I don’t usually strike buildings, but once I accidentally killed a hardened shelter with an Infantry group inside with a CBU and it listed it in my squadron stats as a “static” kill instead of a ground kill.

[Dee-Jay]

Maybe one day … strkiking something else than your assigned DMPI could brings you plenatlies (or even martial court in case of civilian installation damages = well known and unwanted collateral damages)

This could make GBUs / JDAMs more attractives and would make the mission more challenging, mission planning more demanding and would also make some possible new TGP features more usefull …

EDIT: Something I didn’t thought about … : it would makes pointless to load 20*CBUs or other bombs under your wings …

[ASharpe]

@Dee-Jay:

Maybe one day … strkiking something else than your assigned DMPI could brings you plenatlies (or even martial court in case of civilian installation damages = well known and unwanted collateral damages)

I don’t understand. Are you saying that he struck the wrong target? If that is the case, why does the debrief say “significant damage to target site”?

[Dee-Jay]

@ASharpe:

I don’t understand. Are you saying that he struck the wrong target? If that is the case, why does the debrief say “significant damage to target site”?

No. I am just thinking loud.

For the debrief page, we know that there are some bug and unconsistent repoorts (especialy in MP). Could be something to dig one day also, however, low prio.

[thumper33]

I believe a lot of bridges have multiple spans. You may be taking a hit by not destroying the specific span you identified when setting up the TE.

[ASharpe]

Incidentally enough, I have never had a bridge drop come back successful, and consequently have stopped flying them all together.

[Worther_1]

@vandroy:

Yes, but you lost your wingman!

EDIT: here is an old related topic that can help
https://www.benchmarksims.org/forum/showthread.php?8877-Total-score-in-logbook/page3

I know but I didn’t like him anyway! Joking aside, I was about 5 seconds from dropping ordnance when bandit call sent out, I decided quickly to drop on target then engage (lighter plane, more G’s).

Good decision or not?

[ASharpe]

@Worther_1:

I know but I didn’t like him anyway! Joking aside, I was about 5 seconds from dropping ordnance when bandit call sent out, I decided quickly to drop on target then engage (lighter plane, more G’s).

Good decision or not?

It’s what I would have done…which is not to say if it’s good or bad. When I do two-ship flights, we set up an orbit pattern around the target at a safe distance and altitude (obviously for a bridge, with no AA threat, this is going to be around 10k and maybe a mile out) and we stack the altitude, so my buddy would be at like 13k. I prefer to stack no less than 2000 ft of vertical distance and go to an odd number just to keep it straight easier.

While he orbits, I switch to AG and drop on the target, then I climb up to 15k and switch to AA. We both drop down, he to 10k to drop and me to 13k to orbit. I’m orbiting in AA while he’s dropping down and switching to AG after he hits altitude. I should note that we also make sure we orbit in opposite tracks so when we are both in AA mode we have close to 360 degree of coverage.

This is more a function of how we play the campaign though, that this works for us and the overall strategic situation.

For example, we tried flying a straight strike profile, with a player AA escort on day one in Korea and we all had to drop stores because there were 30+ NK aircraft on our side of the border. So for the next two days we did nothing but sweeps and intercepts and barcaps. Even on day three and four, though, we were still seeing mig-29’s sneaking across the border with 23’s and 19’s flying interference, and once on Day Four we bagged a four ship flight of IL-28’s over Soeul.

Having experienced all of this we setup the plan I illustrated above, which allowed us to be ready if a 23 or 29 suddenly popped up while one or the other of us was hitting the target. But I stand by my assessment that the first two days of the campaign are nothing but sweeps. I had nine consecutive completed missions and 19 AA kills after the first three days, and we never sent a flight up that didn’t come back with kills. My wingman was at 15 for the same set of flights, I think.

[vandroy]

@Worther_1:

I know but I didn’t like him anyway! Joking aside, I was about 5 seconds from dropping ordnance when bandit call sent out, I decided quickly to drop on target then engage (lighter plane, more G’s).

Good decision or not?

I can’t judge if it’s a good decision but I would do the same (probably loosing also my own aircraft)!